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Old November 21, 2008, 02:57 AM   #1 (permalink)

Nobody should be so powerful as to gaurantee a spot in a raid says Blizzard

On the issue of utility, yes our design is that nobody has an ability so awesome or critical that they are gauranteed a raid spot. In truth you can get all of the important buff and debuffs with a relatively small number of players (especially in a 25 raid) so you should be able to bring who you want after that. If some classes bring versions of a buff that are obviously and significantly superior to another's then that is the sort of thing we'll get fixed.

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Old November 21, 2008, 08:13 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Re: Nobody should be so powerful as to gaurantee a spot in a raid says Bliz

I wonder when they'll give another class Heroism then. Or Fortitude.
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Old November 21, 2008, 09:31 AM   #3 (permalink)

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locks should get it, we dont buff anything apart from HS and SS, gimme a buff plz.
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Old November 21, 2008, 10:29 AM   #4 (permalink)

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I wonder when they'll give another class Heroism then. Or Fortitude.
You mean like the imp's stamina buff? or Demonic Pact Effect?

I know they're not the best in class buffs but they do fill rolls.
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Old November 21, 2008, 10:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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locks should get it, we dont buff anything apart from HS and SS, gimme a buff plz.

qm,

Might you be overlooking the party /raid buff(s) in the Aff and Demo tree? Not sure about Destro, but sure there has to at least one lingering in there somewhere.

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Old November 21, 2008, 10:51 AM   #6 (permalink)

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gimme a buff plz.
The whole point of this is you shouldn't bring people for their buffs. Your buff will not earn you a raid spot, your performance will.
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Old November 21, 2008, 10:51 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Re: Nobody should be so powerful as to gaurantee a spot in a raid says Bliz

indeed felpup gives nice +spi and +int buff
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Old November 21, 2008, 10:54 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Re: Nobody should be so powerful as to gaurantee a spot in a raid says Bliz

About buffs: With a melee group (and drood/warrior/DK tank) I use to summon the imp (even if the new armor buff is imho too nerfed).
With a caster group and/or a PalaTank i use to summon the Felpuppy that give a nice int/spi buff (with this pet and a good use of haunt and DP, i never eat/drink during all the istance).

I'm doing right?


Anyway, could be nice to have like health funel even for member in party

Ps. I'm 51/1/10.
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Old November 21, 2008, 10:55 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Re: Nobody should be so powerful as to gaurantee a spot in a raid says Bliz

ok our buff's:

Blood pact: health increased, commanding shout is better
fellhunter: spirit and intellect, good buff but only usefull if affliction specced and using fellhunter.
demonic empowerment: again a good buff, but linked to lowest dps spec(atm)

As far as a remember, and i could be wrong thats about it.
Ignoring hs and ss
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Old November 21, 2008, 11:24 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Re: Nobody should be so powerful as to gaurantee a spot in a raid says Bliz

Imp is not a STA buff, it's a +health buff. (The distinction is important, because +health stacks with +STA. Whereas if our Imp still gave +STA, it wouldn't stack with Fortitude.)

I wish they'd change the Fel Hunter to be +mana instead of +INT, however. That would then give us an option to either give +health to the raid or +mana to the raid.

I dunno which 2nd class would be good for Heroism. Maybe arms or fury warriors would be a good fit. It's a short-term effect, like a shout, and would give arms/fury warriors one more tool to bring to the raid.
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