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Old June 30, 2009, 11:15 AM   #21 (permalink)

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Re: Faction Change Service in the Works

I really can't understand role players complaining about this.
A spell that can turn you into a sheep is fine, but a spell that can turn you into a troll is ridiculous?
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Old June 30, 2009, 11:29 AM   #22 (permalink)

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Re: Faction Change Service in the Works

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This is a terrible, terrible idea. What will this do for game balance?

In most battlegroups battlegrounds are one sided. Sometimes the alliance ALWAYS wins and other times the horde ALWAYS wins. So if you find yourself in this situation (as I do) and are given the option of switching to the winning team for a one-time fee wouldn't you do it? Of course you would! Who doesn't want to win all the time? But then the disadvantaged side will become completely devoid of all but the most dedicated players and battlegrounds will become pointless with numbers like 15-3 every time.

This is just another blizzard cash in for what they know is a declining game.
I doubt that people will change factions in order to win more bg matches. PvP is only a small part of why people play the game, just like with raiding, achievements, and so forth. I would think that for every horde that switches to alliance, you will also get the opposite of that, so in the end the balance will pretty much stay where it is now.

I am not convinced that this is a declining game just yet. Maybe this time next year, or the year after that, but not right now. The numbers speak for themselves:

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I realize these numbers are from a couple of weeks prior to Lich King release, but I doubt that the numbers are much different now. In fact, they might be higher due to two factors; 1) The expansion Lich King, and 2) summer time - more kids out of school playing video games.

I think faction changes are a good thing and really will help with the role-playing aspect of the game. I, for one, will take advantage of it. I like the faction gain bonus given to humans, but I have preferred horde gameplay for a long time now.
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Old June 30, 2009, 11:31 AM   #23 (permalink)

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yes but the sheep is temp, this is perm

I honestly don't see a problem with it, ok it will be a bit wierd if in neverwinter night you can change from human to an elf but for an ever changing mmo, well it's just business as usual

i also secretly hope that they'll implement a race change so i can stop being a human mage / warlock
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Old June 30, 2009, 12:07 PM   #24 (permalink)

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Re: Faction Change Service in the Works

Really think people should wait and see what details come out before crying foul on this.
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Old June 30, 2009, 12:30 PM   #25 (permalink)

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Re: Faction Change Service in the Works

As for balance issues, on my server there are far more horde than alliance. If they made an option for players to switch to only the UNDER-populated faction, I wouldn't mind this change. It wouldf help to balance the servers. But otherwise, servers are going to become more one-sided than ever and that's frustrating. I like world pvp but it's just not fun when I'm minding my own buisness questing and I get ganked by not one, but 4 or 5 horde at once. Or if it started out as 1 on 1, if in a matter of seconds a bunch more show up. Theres no fun in that anymore, and the lesser population faction is missing out what it's like to defend themselves.

Otherwise I think this is a terrible idea. I mean, what about reputation and mounts and things like that? Deciding what faction to be on is a big step and you learn loyalty for your side. Now who cares when you can just switch back and forth for a fee. Getting closer and closer to just having a god-mode in game - everyone can have everything soon enough. No one has to deal with their decisions and earn what they get - server horde overrun? just switch! that'll make things better! you don't ever have to deal with the consequences of your decisions as long as you have some money!

Just my opinion ont he matter.

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Old June 30, 2009, 12:33 PM   #26 (permalink)

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Re: Faction Change Service in the Works

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Really think people should wait and see what details come out before crying foul on this.
agreed.

Also, make sure you use white/normal font in your posts.
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Old June 30, 2009, 12:47 PM   #27 (permalink)

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Just because they are looking into it doesn't mean that this will become reality. Anyway, I am not sure how I would feel about faction/race change should it become reality.

I think I would prefer a way to turn traitor/defect, anyway. It fits into RP scenarios and people are always defecting to the other faction both in RL and in fiction; however, just because I might prefer the defection scenario doesn't mean I would think that would be a good idea either, though. I just think it would be a better idea.
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Old June 30, 2009, 02:16 PM   #28 (permalink)

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Re: Faction Change Service in the Works

Well, I'm not really talking about PVE servers where pvp is obviously a minor aspect of gameplay. I'm referring to PVP servers where people BG at least as much as they raid. Some people do nothing but PVP in between the usual daily/WG/profession grind. I'm not saying that one faction in every battlegroup will become a ghost town, but I do think that in many cases it will throw things out of balance. Okay, if they restrict players from transferring to the side with higher numbers then that would help to stem this problem (I hadn't actually thought of that) but sometimes it's not a matter of numbers. The horde in my battlegroup are just better players, both at level 80 and in the twink brackets. They win not because they outnumber us but because they play better. So what is to stop many people from switching? I myself have often cursed the stupidity of alliance and wished that I had rolled horde. If my guild decides that they want to switch sides then I won't argue and neither will many other people.

As for role playing...maybe they are giving us too much control. Server changes...okay, name changes...well, alright no big deal there. Barber shops...can't blame them for that one (hated my hairdo for two years and couldn't wait to change it) but gender changes? Now we're getting a little iffy but I can still abide by that one. Why? Because it is entirely cosmetic and has no effect on gameplay. This is going a little too far. How long before the gear section opens up at the blizzard store? New player? Don't want to grind? Well, just pay us a nominal fee and start at level 80 with full raid epics. The next step after that is to name the next expansion The Sims: Warcraft Edition!

When I said declining I meant the game itself and the creative power of the designers, not the income. Look at the new warlock set bonuses? Nothing but base damage/crit increases for the 3.1 and 3.2 (so far). Wrath was creative and neat when it started but it seems like they ran out of steam and have now stopped trying. (and don't forget what 'new' dungeon we got for T7)
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Old June 30, 2009, 02:25 PM   #29 (permalink)

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Dark Iron US PvP
Guild: Northrend Buds
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Re: Faction Change Service in the Works

I wish they wouldn't do this. Whats the point of having an Alliance/ Horde faction if you can switch between the two .At least for PvE servers they may as well make it like EQ where you can create w/e race you want with no real good vs bad aspect.
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Old June 30, 2009, 02:29 PM   #30 (permalink)

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Re: Faction Change Service in the Works

This is a good change, finally i can leave the horde with my Priest and Rogue. I cant be asked to play with ******** anymore, i rather play with kids then stay with the Horde. And hopefully Alliance will lose alot of kids that wanna win some BGs.

Oh my mighty gnome will be happy to share loginscreen with a priest and a rogue (both dwarf ofc)
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