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October 13, 2009, 08:37 PM
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Fizzik 80 Blood Elf Warlock Dunemaul US PvP Guild: Ghosts of Damnation Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
Below are the latest changes in the 3.3 PTR patch introduced today. Tried to include only changes to previous patch notes (note the change in the description of Shadow Bite). There are also several interesting changes to the user interface, all of which can be found here. Warlocks
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Last edited by fizboz; October 14, 2009 at 02:35 AM.. Reason: Updated with additional notes |
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October 13, 2009, 08:47 PM
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Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
Destruction
I'm not quite sure how to do the blue post thing so feel free to delete this when we have someone competent put them up, but i thought that these should be added. Also Jealous of spriests as they now have all their dots scale with haste via shadowform, lots of jealousy even if they did need it more. |
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October 13, 2009, 08:47 PM
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Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
That's huge for the soulstone and as so many predicted demo is getting a nerf. Not positive about moten core now though... is filler still shadowbolt or is it now incinerate, only during molten core proc? |
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October 13, 2009, 09:15 PM
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Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
i really dont understand this bliazzrd knew demo dps is the worst of the three tree's so a buff was expected ok now they add a nerf in there!!! and im also unsure about this new molten core using shadow bolt and incinerate when you need debuff or when mc procs may seem intresting when your in a crazy raid boss in icecrown keeping an eye out for this and all the others might be a little bit of a headache 
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October 14, 2009, 12:14 AM
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Belthezor 80 Blood Elf Warlock Draenor US PvE PvP Guild: BCBuds Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
Not sure I am thrilled with anything going on now really and am more confused than anything in some regards. First of all why is that SPriest are becoming the leaders of dot damage? I know two spriests that do very well (usually top 3 in 10mans) so I didn't realize they needed a buff. I am glad they are getting a boost (some love is better than none), but priests are not a pure dps class.. am I just wrong in assuming these changes will make spriests better dotters than affliciton locks? Another thing that is mind boggling is mages will now be able to have their elementals out full time. Didn't blizzard want to widen the gap between mages and locks? Destruction for all its wonderfully powerful spells and high dps, plays a little too much like a mage. We summon demons though.. cool.. but now mages can summon elementals. Hmm.. So... locks can dot.. oh wait.. spriests might be able to do that better.. but we have pets.. so do hunters, dks, and mages. In pve I love where we are damage-wise but Im just not feeling the love at all. Soul Stone cd going down is nice, but I dislike the duration also going down. 15min is just annoying. Have it so a new SS will make a previous SS dissappear, so you can only SS one person at a time, but not have to worry about wasting shards every 15minutes. Luckily this is all still ptr stuff so it may all change before it hits live. |
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October 14, 2009, 01:57 AM
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Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
Honestly from what I've read spriest's are in need of a pve buff, though I can see where you are coming from with the class homogenization thing, personally I'm hoping that we get Curse of Agony and ua able to scale with haste as well, but then I'm pretty sure we would be overpowered so they might have to nerf something else to compensate, though I would expect them to just revert the changes rather than have to do something new. Haven't been able to test anything with the hasted corruption as of yet, and my math ability is slim to none so I'm no theory crafter but I will get back and give a ballpark guesstimate of what kind of place they are in. Though an spriest I spoke to was so estatic I don't have the heart to call for it to be nerfed for them. |
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October 14, 2009, 04:02 AM
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Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
spriest shines in multi dot fights ( ie anything with adds ) and suck on single targets, there's a ton of logs out there as well as TC as well as personal experience to show that. that spec needed a buff the elemental belongs to frost mages and if you've ever seen a frost mage in raids then it's either a ) during WoW 1.0 or b ) the person really didn't give a crap about their personal dps or c) they don't know anything about the class. frost mages are worse then demo cause seriously they bring sweet all buffs to raids that isn't covered easily by about 5 different classes and has shoddy dps to boot as for the overall buffs and nerfs... I'm waiting for simcraft to do runs showing all dps class / spec and how they rank. for me i think it's pointless to argue whether the nerf was warranted without considering everything else |
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October 14, 2009, 04:25 AM
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Belthezor 80 Blood Elf Warlock Draenor US PvE PvP Guild: BCBuds Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
My concerns aren't really with dps meters as they are with homogenization I guess. I realize that frost isn't a raiding spec, at least not what that I've seen, but I guess my confusion comes from a non-raid, non-pvp/arena point of view this time. I always thought affliction locks were the kings of dots and yet when the haste effecting dots announcement came out, most people were mentioned spriests over locks. It sort of hit me.. warlocks are not known for their dots anymore. :( Then with mage pet.. same thing really. Except this time it was even more confusing to be because I'm pretty sure I remember hearing how they felt mages and locks were too similar, and they felt mages were pretty much where they wanted them and it was us locks they wanted to change up. Giving mages a full time pet seems a to go against what they said.. at least in my interpretation. I don't play a mage or an spriest though and this is not a QQ at all, its all just based off of confusion. I guess Im just wondering what is their vision for us warlocks in comparison to other classes. |
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October 14, 2009, 04:50 AM
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Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
mages get a permamenent pet? since when? |
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October 14, 2009, 06:31 AM
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Liche 80 Undead Warlock Sporeggar Euro RP PvP Guild: Blackout Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: PTR Patch 3.3 Notes Updated 10/13
As far as class homogenization is concerned, I think it all needs to be approached with a wide perspective. From a mage point of view, Warlocks have three COMPLETELY different spec's/playstyle's to choose from, Dot's/Pet Synergy/Burst whereas Mage's simply have Burst/Burst/raid buffs (anyone need Food/Water?) From a Hunters, Locks are getting a spec with VIABLE Pet synergy(QQ Beast Masters, QQ) Lets not forget the lore aspect of it, Mage's have been binding Elementals to their service since forever, and while I am personally a little worried about the sheer amount of pet's found in the game now, I think that Frost mage's definetely deserve a little distinction for PvE. The Conflag nerf is a PVP based one, even a very high level pvp lock said recently that he thought it was needed, perhaps the dps loss will be covered by a seperate buff(later on). Really Terrible NApkin Math: Soul Fire: 6 second Cast Bane: - 2 Seconds Haste: - 12.5% Cast Time: 3.5sec Decimation: - 40% Cast Time: 2.1sec So that should be three casts per decimation proc? Last edited by Liche; October 14, 2009 at 07:03 AM.. |
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