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Old December 31, 2008, 02:52 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Today's build is a 53/3/15 build, Haunt/Ruin with Improved Imp. The imp is the affliction pet of choice at the moment, mainly because of felhunter bugs, along with a boosted imp mana regen rate which allows him to never go OOM in most raids. For the rotation, see my previous blog post on affliction raiding. Below 25% on a boss, I use drain soul as my filler, and I drop immolate from my rotation. There are a few points here or there that can vary in this build. However one thing I must stress is that once you're using decent gear, any 1 point in ISB is better than 1 point in Molten Core.

It probably goes without saying this is one of my favorite builds. I was able to pull 5700 dps on patchwerk last night using a Doomguard, though we had a bit of lag, so I think I could have done more. (Oh what I wouldn't give for one lag-free night of raiding these days) This build is also probably one of the most difficult specs to raid with. It's a complicated spec that requires absolute focused attention, the use of DoTimer, and coordination. Blizzard is going to be simplifying this spec in some way, which will be a welcome change for most. Especially considering that when the content becomes more difficult, this spec will too.

This spec thus far has been edging out the competition to seemingly be THE top dps spec. Several warlocks have broken the 6k dps barrier with this spec. The more you have to move around while using this spec, the more difficult keeping the rotations becomes. Some argue this spec loses more when you have to move around compared to other specs, but there is no way to quantify one way or the other with any certainty. But, played correctly, this spec is truly awesome.

This spec also scales far better than some might think. Haste is actually great for this spec, as it allows you to get through rotations quicker, throw more nukes in between refreshes, and ramp back up after dps pauses due to fight mechanics. It benefits tremendously from spell damage, and benefits from spirit more than any other spec as well. Simulations show this spec actually scales better than any other spec that warlocks have.

Even with the difficult rotations, I have to rate this spec 10/10. Well played, it's a kick <butt> spec in every sense of the word.
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Old December 31, 2008, 03:43 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Raiding Spec Roundup - Part 2 - 53/3/15

Thanks for posting these

I'm a fan of reading your stuff from wowmb, ej, and your blog.
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Old December 31, 2008, 03:46 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Glad to hear.
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Old December 31, 2008, 03:53 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Staghelm US PvE
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Re: Raiding Spec Roundup - Part 2 - 53/3/15

accorind to my spread sheet(although its close) the optimum build would be to take the 3 points out of Improved Imp and Cataclysm(I know this makes it so SB isn;t hit cap but the spread sheet says its still worth it) and put 5/5 in Imp SB 2/2 in Demonic Power and 1/3 in Molten Core. Now I will say I am not 100% sure on the spread sheet accuracy but I am interested in knowing what people think of these changes.
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Old December 31, 2008, 04:43 PM   #5 (permalink)

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What kind of stats are you using for your model in the spreadsheet.
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Old December 31, 2008, 06:28 PM   #6 (permalink)

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80 Gnome Warlock
Antonidas US PvE
Guild: No Drama
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Raiding Spec Roundup - Part 2 - 53/3/15

Hey Fallenman,

So.... I'll try anything you say twice, even tho the Amp Curse and Imp Shadow Bolt go against things I've read (hey but it's Fallenman lol).

2 questions on this part of your post:

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The imp is the affliction pet of choice at the moment, mainly because of felhunter bugs, along with a boosted imp mana regen rate which allows him to never go OOM in most raids.
1.) What Felhunter bugs you referring to?
2.) You talk about the Imp Mana regen but no Dark Pact in your build. Do you have the Imp DPSing?

Thanks!
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Old December 31, 2008, 06:32 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Sargeras US PvP
Guild: Fenrir
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Re: Raiding Spec Roundup - Part 2 - 53/3/15

I think i can answer for him.

1) the felhunter periodically (and randomly) stops attacking during the fight resulting in much lower than normal dps from him.
2) dark pact scales more poorly than lifetap so even for affliction its better dps to use lifetap rather than dark pact for mana regen. And yes, the imp does dps.
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Old December 31, 2008, 08:31 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Debuff is spot on. thanks.
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Old December 31, 2008, 08:44 PM   #9 (permalink)

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80 Gnome Warlock
Antonidas US PvE
Guild: No Drama
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Raiding Spec Roundup - Part 2 - 53/3/15

Thanks to you both
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Old December 31, 2008, 10:48 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Galakrond US PvE
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Guild: Born of Ashes
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Re: Raiding Spec Roundup - Part 2 - 53/3/15

I've been playing around looking for a good deep aflic raiding spec to try out, this one looks like a winner to me. Going to swap imp felhunter for suppression though until I get some better hit :P

Thank you for this post
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