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July 10, 2009, 06:20 AM
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Belthezor 80 Blood Elf Warlock Draenor US PvE PvP Guild: BCBuds Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
I have been respeccing a lot lately.. seems weekly almost. Well maybe not that bad, but a lot. I am trying hard to find the best spec for me atm. I am curious about the 41/30spec as well, but it seems like the numbers on the sheets just don't seem to translate on bosses well. I have read in another thread that these two specs are really the only good specs. Also according to Simulationcraft on post-3.1 specs - Elitist Jerks with mostly pre-ulduar gear the affliction spec seems to win out. I am currently in a mix one t7 with three t7.5 and one t8.5. With a mix of non set peices. Anyway I would really like to hear from both groups, the pro-affliction and the pro-destro warlocks. I have seen some affliction locks getting over 5000 dps so I know its possible. I have yet to enter ulduar with affliction. Hoping to continue a run tonight but not sure if it will happen or not. I tried reading up on other places but I fear alot of the info my be outdated. Thanks in advance. |
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July 10, 2009, 06:48 AM
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Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
well I've done 5.3k on patch with the destro spec without any ulduar piece of gear. dunno about affliction tho, but I don't think I could do the same with aff spec. 
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July 10, 2009, 07:15 AM
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Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
highest i did on patch as affi without ulduar gear was 5.6k with doomguard out ( 10 men naxx ) we run ulduar now with 3 locks full affi lock - destro lock and felguard lock we have almost the same gear stats only thing i see is that the felguard lock is falling behind dps/damage wen we were gearing up,we al 3 at 4 pieces t8.5 now difrence between destro and affi isnt that great on bosses on trash destro wins from affi and besides that some bosses destro better some bosses affi is better so thats why i got duel spec affi / destro if you run ulduar a couple of times you know on wich boss wich spec is better so i just switch spec on those |
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July 10, 2009, 07:34 AM
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Belthezor 80 Blood Elf Warlock Draenor US PvE PvP Guild: BCBuds Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
thanks solidsnake. What bosses do affliction locks shine at? (in ulduar) |
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July 10, 2009, 07:44 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
I think solidsnake said everything that is to be said here. Affliction can easily keep up with destro and it depends on the fight which one will end up first... I've seen unstable affliction tick for 20k+ on Hodir btw, my guild mate had no chance to cancel it and eventually pulled from the tank :D Felguard hybrid specs are slowly falling behind, I think it's still viable but it feels like putting more effort in to get the same result... |
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July 10, 2009, 10:23 AM
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Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
remember though that destro will do tons of burst damage, but if you die then it's over. however with affliction if you die the curses still stick and can still help out even though you can't. of course i haven't played a PVE spec in a while, i have been stuck in PVP mode. but my PVE spec is demo down to felguard, then affliction. mainyl so my felgaurd can tank and i can lay the beatings. i'm more of a solo type of guy.
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July 10, 2009, 10:51 AM
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klaxian 80 Undead Warlock Mug'Thol US PvP Guild: Skull and Bone Killers Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
I prefer 0/13/58 destruction for raids mainly because of the burst damage (and good dps). For bosses, sometimes afflic is better, but destro is always respectable. For trash mobs, destro has the burst that you need. If the mob dies before your DoTs even get a chance to get going, your overall dps doesn't look as good. However, I dual spec affliction for PvP because of the survivability and instant casts. I normally run with this spec on for PvE too since you never know when an opposing player will find you and it's fun to take down the trash mobs fast. |
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July 10, 2009, 11:41 AM
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Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
personaly i say just go with the spec you like the most and do the best dps ect with. I tried several times the afliction spec, but it isnt working for me. I wached movies about rotations ect, changed gear, did symcraft with it ect, but i cant get the numbers that simcraft tels me. Tbh i suck at afliction , but sort of pwn with destro. Just do 2 runs in naxx or whatever and see wich does the most for you and stick with it. Dont look at charts that said afliction owns destro. If you cant play it dont use it
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July 10, 2009, 11:54 AM
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Elbuats 80 Orc Warlock Gurubashi US PvP Guild: Adams Road Gang Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
As for bosses that are affliction vs. destruction: Basically, I think about this way...if there are adds that need to be downed quickly and you have to switch between targets a lot, go destruction. I basically started dipping into a destruction raiding spec for Emalon. That switching to the overcharged add and then back to Emalon was murder on my dps because all my DoTs would fall off Emalon and I'd have to start all over again. If the boss fight doesn't require quick switching or downing of anything, then you can go affliction (this is why Patchwerk is so good for affliction). Also, I tend to go Affliction for bosses that require a lot of movement as well due to the insta-casts that can by done on the fly. But, again, honestly, it all comes down to your own personal playstyle and what you like. For myself, I thought I would be affliction for life, and then I started a boomkin alt and got addicted to crits...when my conflagrate hits for 13000+, I squeal with joy! (not really...sort of 
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July 10, 2009, 11:54 AM
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Belthezor 80 Blood Elf Warlock Draenor US PvE PvP Guild: BCBuds Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: 53/0/18 vs 0/13/58
Thanks all. I have always loved Affliction. Affliction to me is way more about what a warlock is. That and Demo, but demo is way too far off in terms of dps. Destro, while extremely respectable dps, is just a fire mage wiht a minion. That being said, I still need to do the best dps I can for the raid. I have heard that these two specs are the only two viable specs when it comes to raiding now, if topping dps is your goal. I wonder if these are the two that are most vialble, why do I seem almost all destro locks? I have seen some affliction warlocks really tear up the charts, but on the whole all I see are destro now. I would hate to be ostrisized by others because I am not "the" spec, and loose a raid spot. |
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