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Old August 16, 2009, 01:27 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Michajahosa
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Korgath US PvP
Guild: Undecided
Talent Spec: 58/0/18
3.2 Affliction not working?!?!

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While I was raiding I saw Damage charts and I was at around 1.8k and Max around 2k. I know my gear isn't the best but should my DPS be much higher as affliction? I am using basic rotation of SB - SB- Haunt - Corruption - Curse of Agony - UA - SB until something runs out then I put them back on except Haunt... and thats it. Am I doing something wrong?
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Old August 16, 2009, 02:40 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Ugru
80 Orc Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Children of Eternity
Talent Spec: 3/13/54
3.2 Re: Affliction not working?!?!

Why are you not refreshing Haunt?
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Old August 16, 2009, 02:44 AM   #3 (permalink)

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80 Orc Warlock
Barthilas US PvP
Guild: Serendipity
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Talent Spec: 0/56/15
Re: Affliction not working?!?!

HAHA yeah mate haunt is one of the most important dots to keep up. Your rotation seems a little off too... There is also a tonne of videos and guides how to dps as affliction... But yeah you need haunt up mate, unless that was a typo for corruption
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Old August 16, 2009, 11:15 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Michajahosa
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Korgath US PvP
Guild: Undecided
Talent Spec: 58/0/18
3.2 Re: Affliction not working?!?!

Ya I typed it out wrong, I put Haunt back up every time it runs out...
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Old August 16, 2009, 12:09 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Jascal
80 Human Warlock
Moonrunner US PvE

3.2 Re: Affliction not working?!?!

Yes, you prob should be pulling more dps. First off, you should only do 1 Sb to start. An ideal rotation would be SB haunt Cor Curse of Agony UA spam SB while refreshing all dots. Make sure that you DO NOT clip your dots. It is much better for your dots to run out than it is for you to cut them off. Also, make sure you drain soul at 25% or less HP. My drain soul generally ticks for 11-14k! That is a huge increase in dps.
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Old August 16, 2009, 02:51 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Xavron
80 Gnome Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Veritas
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/1/17
3.2 Re: Affliction not working?!?!

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Yes, you prob should be pulling more dps. First off, you should only do 1 Sb to start. An ideal rotation would be SB haunt Cor Curse of Agony UA spam SB while refreshing all dots. Make sure that you DO NOT clip your dots. It is much better for your dots to run out than it is for you to cut them off. Also, make sure you drain soul at 25% or less HP. My drain soul generally ticks for 11-14k! That is a huge increase in dps.
It is, until you get into T8... at that point, it's a trade-off whether I keep SBolting or do a Drain Soul. A lot of it then depends on:

- Am I in shadow trance? Insta-cast SBolt.
- Do I have DoTs running out in 3 seconds? Shadowbolt.
- Everything is up? Drain Soul

But the majority of the time, Drain Soul is the best choice below 25%.
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Old August 25, 2009, 09:09 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Darklawdog
80 Gnome Warlock
Medivh US PvE
Guild: Imperìum
Profile: ArmoryLite
Talent Spec: dualspec
3.2 Re: Affliction not working?!?!

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It is, until you get into T8... at that point, it's a trade-off whether I keep SBolting or do a Drain Soul. A lot of it then depends on:

- Am I in shadow trance? Insta-cast SBolt.
- Do I have DoTs running out in 3 seconds? Shadowbolt.
- Everything is up? Drain Soul

But the majority of the time, Drain Soul is the best choice below 25%.

This is accurate. Since I am the utility lock in the guild I'll try and squeeze a SB in to keep ISB up. Generally by following what Xavron said, i have no problems.
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Old August 25, 2009, 03:35 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Calimar
80 Gnome Warlock
stonemaul alliance US PvP
Guild: reagents

3.2 Re: Affliction not working?!?!

rotation should be: corr Curse of Agony ua haunt sb sb + taunt for mana.. idk why people are saying to shadowbolt first, but in a 5 - 10 minute fight i really doubt it matters. i get thru the dot rotation in <5 seconds anyway.. 9 times out of 10 im trying to get into position at the start of the fight and do the insta-casts on the run. i think its more important to keep your dots on the target at all times than to get off a couple shadowbolts..

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Old August 25, 2009, 05:34 PM   #9 (permalink)

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AballahSonDi
80 Human Warlock
Alexstraza US PvE
Guild: StormpikeShocktroopers
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Talent Spec: 56/0/15
3.2 Re: Affliction not working?!?!

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rotation should be: corr Curse of Agony ua haunt sb sb + taunt for mana.. idk why people are saying to shadowbolt first, but in a 5 - 10 minute fight i really doubt it matters. i get thru the dot rotation in <5 seconds anyway.. 9 times out of 10 im trying to get into position at the start of the fight and do the insta-casts on the run. i think its more important to keep your dots on the target at all times than to get off a couple shadowbolts..
It is fairly simple really:

You want Shadow Bolt and Haunt to hit first if at all possible because it will apply the Shadow Embrace Effect twice. This makes your dots hit harder. If you are getting into position than yes it can be beneficial to use your instant cast dots first. 5-10 minute fights are some of the longer fights in the game and the simple fact if you want to push your best dps every second counts. Having all available buffs/debuffs up for the most time possible is what you are shooting for.
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Old August 26, 2009, 12:54 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Xavron
80 Gnome Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Veritas
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/1/17
Re: Affliction not working?!?!

It's 5% per application of Haunt/SBolt, max of 2 stacks for 10% more damage. However, if you have to choose between SBolt or Haunt at the start of a fight... go with Haunt.

Personally, I always curse first (usually CoE in 10-man), then toss Corruption, Haunt, UA then start squeezing off Shadow Bolts. But that's because I have my haste effect on my gloves keyed off of my Haunt spell. I prefer to use that 10 sec of haste every minute to cast UA and a few quick Shadow Bolts at the start.
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