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October 08, 2009, 02:17 PM
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Cramit 80 Orc Warlock zul'jin US PvE Guild: Reborn Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
Well I ran into a bit of a problem last night while doing Heroic Lord Jarraxus. The problem was my dps was in the toilet due to switching dps to adds as they came out. With affliction i never seem to have the neccesary time to get a good full rotation going. My suggestion was since i was an affliction lock my dps with be much higher and useful if i were to stay on Jarraxus the whole fight. And my dps was much higher. Am I the only aff lock that has a hard time against destro due to there amount of burst? I run affliction for the raid buff and dont expect to be on top of the charts unless i am doing yogg. I rarely see any raiding affliction locks anymore. Should i just go to destro on fights where the target i am dpsing has to be changed so quickly, dps the adds and have crap for dps, or just stay on the boss. And if i just stay on the boss (adds are going down just fine without me) how can i get my raid leader to unsderstand hey thats just how aff works? Am I wrong? Or should affliction just be dropped because the raid buff is not that important compared to destro dps. Thank You for your time. Last edited by Cramit; October 08, 2009 at 02:27 PM.. |
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October 08, 2009, 02:39 PM
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Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
You should keep providing the buff if the raid needs it IMO. I'd switch to the add, dot it up and get back to the boss, but don't avoid it. When you provide the 5% crit debuff, you lose far less dps than the raid gains. If your RL is knowledgeable, he will understand that you are suffering slightly for the benefit of the raid. He will also notice that you are not pulling your weight on the adds if you stay on the boss. |
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October 08, 2009, 02:40 PM
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Vulcris 80 Human Warlock Fenris US PvE Guild: End Game Theory Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
In my opinion, raid leaders sometimes do not make decisions that produce optimum results. Perhaps as a result of ignorance in this case. it all depends on how much of a team player you want to be. Then do your job as best you can. So if you decide to do what the raid leader says and switch to the adds you'd probably be better off doing so as destro. |
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October 08, 2009, 03:11 PM
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Froshaka 80 Blood Elf Warlock Alexstrasza US PvE Guild: Is A Living Legend Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
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If I were you'd id make a destruction spec. |
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October 08, 2009, 03:24 PM
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Cramit 80 Orc Warlock zul'jin US PvE Guild: Reborn Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
Well yogg is very afflictiion friendly due to being able to dps him with your back turned and that most of phase 3 is below 25% health. It will make any affliction lock smile. |
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October 08, 2009, 03:35 PM
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Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
For me, dotting multiple mobs is a DPS increase, not a decrease. It's just a little harder to do I guess. Try casting a shadow bolt at the boss, and while it's casting target an add. That way you are are casting at all times. You won't have downtime fumbling around to get on the right mob. If your target is out of range, only run toward it while you are waiting on a global cool down. Don't bother dotting up targets that aren't near full health, because they are going to be dead before you can get some decent ticks in. |
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October 09, 2009, 11:17 AM
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Serbeus 80 Human Warlock Sargeras US PvP Guild: Avenged Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: destro |
Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
I don't know if i don't want to be like everybody else or what but when everybody was affliction i was either meta/ruin or destro, and now that everybody is destro i find myself going affliction. I ran 10man ToC last night as affliction and i admit my dps probably would have been a bit higher if was destro but i felt like i enjoyed myself more. On Jarraxus i ran into this issue too. but i put up 2 shadowbolts for the embrace stack and then corruption, ua, and Curse of Agony while keeping my dots and haunt up on Jarraxus, after making sure the boss was up to date on his dots i would go back to mistress of pain and resfresh dots or shadowbolt/drainsoul until dead then go back to Jarraxus. Kind of a multi-tasking affliction rotation. On the infernals i just tossed out corr and Curse of Agony and moved on, tossed out a seed of corruption here and there. I was actually suprised the fight i dominated on was the twins. i figured since i would be switching alot that my dps would be low but actually i ended out on top over the hunter and rogue who had been toping the charts most of the evening. I think this had to do with the damage buff and the fact that i was getting 30k drain soul ticks and 11k Corruption ticks, thats right 11k TICKS not total damage. I wish drain soul was usable all the time. I think i'm going to stick it out and stay affliction for the moment and hope for some affliction love in 3.3. side note: my dps wasn't always number one but my damage overall for the fights, which is what really counts is usually a couple places higher on the chart compared to my average dps vs everyone else's dps.
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October 09, 2009, 02:28 PM
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Cramit 80 Orc Warlock zul'jin US PvE Guild: Reborn Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
I too had very good dps on the twins, i believe due to the dots still ticking when they submerge. I have been thinking with the newer gear destro is starting to get harder to catch. While raiding ulduar i had no trouble keeping up with desto locks if not topping them. The 3.3 aff buffs look great so guess we will see. |
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October 09, 2009, 04:09 PM
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Fizzik 80 Blood Elf Warlock Dunemaul US PvP Guild: Ghosts of Damnation Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
I think that there aren't very many Affliction friendly fights anymore. I was Afflic from vanilla up until Ulduar (never once even sacced my Succy), and it was relatively raid viable, but with the number of fights these days that require either a lot of switching, movement or add management, it just seems that Destro completely outshines it. Ulduar has a handful of fights where Afflic is competitive or even better than Destro, but I don't think there's a single fight in ToC where Afflic has an edge. Maybe Twin Valkyrs would be competitive, but other than that... There aren't many Patchwerk style fights anymore, and that hurts Affliction. Last edited by fizboz; October 09, 2009 at 04:10 PM.. Reason: I keep spelling Ulduar as Uludar... bad bad bad |
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October 09, 2009, 05:03 PM
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Re: Using Affliction on Herioc Lord Jarraxux
How much does it really matter if your not topping the charts but you love affliction? I usually have better overall damage numbers per boss than most of the destro locks, but my dps isn't as good. I do have destro as a duel spec and will use it if needed although my gear scales better to aff at the moment. Shouldn't it be more about play what you like, be the best you can be at it, and try to get your RL/GL to understand? Maybe I'm just to new at raiding... |
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