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October 26, 2009, 03:26 PM
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Dyson 80 Human Warlock Scilla US PvP Guild: Eden Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Trialing Destro build
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@lilsteele, OK that answers that question. I am guessing you have to put corruption before incinerate in the script because otherwise incinerates would always take higher priority as the only direct damage spell left? In any case, even if corruption did crit, the description on the reign trinket says it only procs off of non-periodic spell crits. So the trinket wouldn't proc off corruption for an affliction lock anyway I believe. |
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October 26, 2009, 04:06 PM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: Trialing Destro build
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You're right about the reign trinklet. I just meant it in the sense of using a global cooldown that can't proc the trinklet. Basically this is also the reason that the Reign trinklet is not so terribly great for affliction. It's still best-in-slot, together with the vezax HM one, but it doesn't give that huge dps boost that it gives to destro locks or arcane mages. |
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October 26, 2009, 09:25 PM
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Re: Trialing Destro build
I was using it very situationaly and yeah had similair numbers in the realm of 100-200 dps difference but due to the hit i am carrying was wanting some ideas thanks for the info is exsactly what i was after :D |
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November 02, 2009, 08:39 AM
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Re: Trialing Destro build
With 4pT9 I was curious if corruption was worth using again in a destro build, so on a whim my guild decided to 8 man 10 man Naxx last night for the achievement. On a few bosses here and there I decided to use corruption and see how it went. Here is my overall damage for all raid bosses: WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay My average corruption did 1086 damage per tick * 6 ticks = 6516 total / 1.5 (GCD) = 4344 DPCT My average incinerate for the night was 8466 / 2.5 cast = 3386 DPCT Now obviously this isn't a perfect test because raid buffs will vary and I didnt use corruption on every boss in a consistent manner. But unless I'm missing something then in this case, however, corruption (with 4pT9) really outshines incinerate. |
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November 02, 2009, 09:27 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: Trialing Destro build
The base cast time incinerate is 2.25 seconds if talented in Emberstorm, which any destro lock should have. Furthermore you will probably cast half of your incinerates under the effect of backdraft, which gives you an additional 30% casting speed increase. Including these two effects will probably increase your incinerate DPCT above that of corruption. Haste is not important for this calculation, since it affects both DPCT's in the same way. |
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November 02, 2009, 08:39 PM
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Re: Trialing Destro build
Yep, certainly missed that. I was just doing quick math with the incinerate tooltip. With the numbers from my log I would need my average unhasted cast time over incinerate to be less than 1.95 seconds. A backdrafted, unhasted incinerate is 1.6 seconds. I think this means that about 47%+ of my incinerates would need the backdraft effect in order for incinerate (with my crit rating) to overtake corruption in this scenario. Does that sound right? Here's my math: 8466 (my average incinerate) / 4344 (corruption DPCT) = 1.94889 second cast (1.6sec backdraft cast * 47%) + (2.25sec normal cast * 53%) = (.752) + (1.1925) = 1.9445 second cast If you want to refer back to my log you can find that I had 196 backdrafts, which makes a maximum of 588 incinerates that could have benefited, which would have meant < 81% backdraft. Now I know that I don't use every backdraft on incinerate. About 1 out of 4 backdrafts I have to recast immolate, which means 1/12 of the backdrafted casts. And probably 1 out of 2 (1/6) goes to chaos bolt. This would mean approximately 75% of my backdrafted casts are actually used on incinerate. So 196 * .75 = 147 * 3 = 441/720 = 61.25% backdrafted incinerates. Making my overall non-hasted average incinerate cast time: (1.6 * .6125) + (2.25 .3875) = (.98) + (.871875) = 1.851875 Making my incinerate DPCT approximately: 8466 / 1.851875 = 4556 Therefore you are indeed right that in this case incinerate still had a higher damage per cast time than corruption, but only by about 4-5%, so it's still great for movement, which is what everyone has been telling me. I just needed to see the math for myself. |
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November 03, 2009, 04:18 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: Trialing Destro build
good job 
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November 03, 2009, 06:43 AM
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makilélè 80 Undead Warlock Sargeras Euro PvP Guild: Les templiers du chaos Talent Spec: 3/14/54 |
Re: Trialing Destro build
corruption is also nice to smooth threat pick especially with build which have only 1 point in destructive reach. I do include it on my start rotation to avoid the immolate+conflag-> death. |
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