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July 16, 2007, 10:04 PM
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Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
No other class has a free win ticket like rogues. And I am tired about seeing posts from struggling lowbies about nerf locks. Yet every time they are at an FP who ganks 'em???? Post 60, most classes can wipe DoTs, making them close to or near in-effective unless you are Afflicition. Locks only have a few classes they have the upperhand with, but it is not a free win. Very unlike rogues against anything wearing cloth or even leather for that matter. What's the point of even trying in an arena without a rogue or against a rogue??? Utterly silliness.... I mean I'd like to have balance enough in the arena where a team can win the big thing without having a rogue or two! And how about having no resistance to a level 19 rogues Sap??? Must I at 70 find myself sapped by someone that low in level with no oppurtunity to resist??? Nerf locks--no! Nerf a freaking rogue man!!!!
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July 16, 2007, 10:54 PM
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Banatu 80 Blood Elf Rogue Kel'Thuzad US PvP Guild: Massacre Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 41/5/25 |
Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
Nerf blizzard, man. It's the only way!
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July 16, 2007, 11:16 PM
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Kolan 70 Blood Elf Warlock Kael'thas US PvE |
Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
The whole reason people complain about warlocks is because Fear is so overpowered in the 19 WSG bracket where the only readily available counter is the Insignia of the Horde or its ally counterpart (Fear Ward isn't available for another level). If there was a more readily available Fear countermeasure, they wouldn't be complaining. But nobody seems to think that far ahead when they complain... |
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July 16, 2007, 11:27 PM
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Darkblayde 70 Undead Warlock Tanaris US PvE Guild: Renewal Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 48/2/11 |
Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
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anyway, blizzard has stated more than once that PvP is not meant to be 1 on 1...there are going to be at least 5 players on each side, so blizzard is right to worry more about the overall balance of the game than the individual balances. arena is slightly different...there are smaller numbers of players involved, and it is my hope that this will draw attention to, and therefore necessitate the fixing of, some of the more glaring imbalances. until then, however, all we can do is sit and hope a rogue doesn't catch us all alone. just my two cents worth
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July 17, 2007, 12:15 AM
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conikia 70 Gnome Warlock aman'thul Oceania PvE Guild: NWO Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 42/2/17 |
Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
Being a rogue myself (Main), I find this comment quite silly, rogues don't have free win ticket. No one has a free win ticket, being good at a class isnt a free win ticket, its because you work hard, got the right gear and take the time to practice ganking others, doesn't mean you have a free ticket. The Rogues advantage is getting the jump on unsuspecting individuals, maybe you shoul find ways to get a rogue out of steath instead of complaining they are overpowered. A stunlock rogue has all the advantage in a dual, only if he can get the first shot in, if he can't then his a dead rogue. A decent rogue against any decent player there is a 50/50 change either could walk away. But enough of that, if you want to beat a rogue, burn some mana and AOE, use perception, just do what you need to do to get him out of steath and then fear and dot, and his dead, 10secs of dots thrown in with a shadow bolt and thats one deep fried rogue. |
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July 17, 2007, 12:23 AM
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Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
I role a rogue for one of my alt's and to be honest they do kinda confuse me. Maybe I am a little bit to used to playing my warlock, but I don't think that they have a free win. IMO everyone should quit worrying about every other class in the game and just enjoy playing their own. I say if some one beats you get better and then go beat them.
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July 17, 2007, 01:06 AM
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Bellamorte 70 Human Warlock Shadowsong Euro PvE Guild: Legion of Discord Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40 |
Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
If your really that worried about rogues eating you, just roll a warrior, beleive me, I have killed almost every rogue i've been up against. im an MS warrior (orc) as my secondary char (UD Lock Main). orcs have 15% stun resistance, and Arms talent gives you more stun res(+15%) a Rogue stuns a warrior...... Warrior comes out of stun with a ton of rage(Second wind = 10% health/20 rage over 10s). hamstrings the rogue has a chance to root him. rogue dodges, warrior hits Overpower(if in battlestance like most warriors use against rogues) Overpower if talented has a +50% chance to crit. so i sit at 77.48% crit chance with OP. so I instantly hit the rogue for 1.5k damage. also putting deep wound that does an additional 60% of my avg damage over 12seconds. a few more white damage hits(600+ against a rogue) and get the odd crit here and there. they dodge again. or vanish. you go out of combat or switch to Berzerk stance. they come out of vanish.......... you intercept or charge. hamstring and then execute. Every class has an anti-class. there isnt a single class that can always win. rogues are amazing against low armour classes, but they are next to useless against anyone else. either team with a class that they're afraid of, or roll a class that counters them, so you can get revenge on them if they do get you :-) |
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July 17, 2007, 01:12 AM
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Illuvatar 70 Undead Warlock Anvilmar US PvE Guild: Club WarCraft Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 6/44/11 |
Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
I have to say that when my 2x2 team faces a team with two rogues, its curtains for me. I'm lucky to cast one spell before I'm stunned until death. Even if there is one rogue, my effectiveness is drastically reduced because I'm occupied with trying to escape constant stuns. In my opinion there is a definite imbalance between rogues and warlocks. To say otherwise is ignoring a great many player's experience. How to remedy it, I don't know. I certainly wouldn't want a free win, but at least more than a slim chance. |
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July 17, 2007, 03:19 AM
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Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
Hi, I have never rolled a rogue and I have no idea about their talents but I must admit they are the most frustrating class to go up against (along with cat form druids...). Reason is this. 1. They WILL stun you (or incapacitate you) and combo you till your dead. I have had whole fights when I have been continuously unconcious without a chance. Only after switching to affy with my succy out do i have a chance against rogues, even as demo its useless b/c the rogue will always dish out more damage to YOU than the FG will dish to HIM. 2. They wear better armor!! 3. We are spell casters...ie we need to stand still for 2.5 seconds to get off one SB..mind you thats hard when you getting cut apart by a rogue running rings around you and even if you do get 2.5seconds cast time you get this sweet message saying "target needs to be in front of you"  I agree with the author of this thread..rogues are hard..atleast with pallys we can see our target and are not on the back foot from the start. S_W Last edited by Shadow_Warlock; July 17, 2007 at 03:29 AM.. |
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July 17, 2007, 04:03 AM
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Re: Nerf locks wHat??? How bout nerf rogues!!!
I have to agree with this. Rogues are one of the classes that are way to powerful. With being able to gouge, cheap shot, Kidney shot all at the period of time, the rogue will slaughter you. Then there is the fact they can unflag sap you and then proceed to deal you more damage with ambush and then stealth cheap shot, and do it again. That lame ability for a rogue to remove EVERYTHING on them at once is total crap. So you load up all your dots on a rogue and for what? For him to pop that stupid ability and remove them all and proceed to kill you. People complain about nerfing us locks, but Rogues being able to sap and not flag? I've had this happened many times and it's utterly annoying. It's the same with most classes though. Paladin bubbles are ridiculous. Bubble, heal, heal, proceed to kill, near death, rinse and repeat. I've spent almost 5 minutes trying to kill a paladin all because of the bubble thing. If you nerf us locks. Then nerf the blasted cheap rogues and paladins. |
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