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View Poll Results: Do you like this decision by the Chinese government?
Yes, get rid of the gold-buying cheaters!! 181 62.85%
No, I don't mind working for things while others just buy it. 13 4.51%
To each his own. I don't care one way or another. 94 32.64%
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Old July 02, 2009, 02:06 PM   #11 (permalink)

Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

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they didn't ban it

Actually, China Didn't Ban Gold Farming|IncGamers

we just interrupted the law wrong ( which is understandable if it's written in chinese )
Makes more sense. Why would the government ban an industry that has no victims and generates taxes. Maybe victims should be in quotes.

I've never bought gold before, and I have had my account hacked. Hack was accomplished via lax password on my EMAIL account. They went back wards into my WoW account. So I have been a "victim" of gold farmers.
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Old July 02, 2009, 02:25 PM   #12 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

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Makes more sense. Why would the government ban an industry that has no victims and generates taxes. Maybe victims should be in quotes.

I've never bought gold before, and I have had my account hacked. Hack was accomplished via lax password on my EMAIL account. They went back wards into my WoW account. So I have been a "victim" of gold farmers.
Technically, Blizzard is the victim (along with people who make gold in a legitimate manner IMO). They lose money when people buy gold, play less, which ultimately costs them subscription dollars. I am no Blizzard fanboy, just calling it how I see it.
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Old July 02, 2009, 03:09 PM   #13 (permalink)

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Technically, Blizzard is the victim (along with people who make gold in a legitimate manner IMO). They lose money when people buy gold, play less, which ultimately costs them subscription dollars. I am no Blizzard fanboy, just calling it how I see it.
Not necessarily. Some players could frustated to have to farm for x hours to get enough gold for their game and quit the game for another easier, farm-free one.

For instance, I never farmed the 5000 gold for the fast mount at level 70, and I have never farmed the netherwing drake. If I didn't make 30k gold at the beginning of Wrath of the Lich King, it would be hell for my alts to get fast mount+crafted gear, and why not try another game instead?
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Old July 02, 2009, 03:15 PM   #14 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

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Not necessarily. Some players could frustated to have to farm for x hours to get enough gold for their game and quit the game for another easier, farm-free one.

For instance, I never farmed the 5000 gold for the fast mount at level 70, and I have never farmed the netherwing drake. If I didn't make 30k gold at the beginning of Wrath of the Lich King, it would be hell for my alts to get fast mount+crafted gear, and why not try another game instead?
I am not aware of any mmo's that allow gold buying/selling/farming. If you think WoW is strict, try playing LOTRO sometime.

I have never farmed enough gold either for my epic flyers. In fact, I just bought cold weather flying for my lock the other night but still only have the slow flying mount. Do I want the faster mount? Of course. But I feel that it should be earned, and that won't happen by buying gold for real money. In any case, I am waiting for the patch so I can get the faction discount in HH. I actually feel that Blizzard should lower the cost of epic flying, but that is just my opinion. Especially for my DK. I have to buy the normal flying skill, the normal mount, epic flying skill, and cold weather flying. Ughh. While my math skills can be argued, this comes out to roughly 6k gold for one toon just to be able to fly.

I understand why people buy/sell gold, I just don't agree with it. I just go without stuff if I can't afford it.

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Old July 02, 2009, 04:06 PM   #15 (permalink)

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Technically, Blizzard is the victim (along with people who make gold in a legitimate manner IMO). They lose money when people buy gold, play less, which ultimately costs them subscription dollars. I am no Blizzard fanboy, just calling it how I see it.
I'm quite sure Blizzard is not the victim, in any real hard monetary sense.

Should they ban accounts (ie last year I think) 300,000 Diablo accts...a large majority will re-buy the game.

WoW is the exact same except add subscription fees. Non IP perma bans equals re-buying the game, (and all it's expansions)...and get back to paying the $15.00 a month just as fast as they can. I imagine they can get around IP bans fairly easily too boot.

Meaning, they make money in another direction from the people breaking the rules to offset any losses of limited/marginal subscription losses.

if I recall correctly, gold farmers have stated themselves when suffering bans that they are Blizzards best customers. They keep re-buying the game packages and restart paying subscriptions.

An odd dance for sure between Blizzard and the farmers. The ToSEULA two step
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Old July 02, 2009, 04:37 PM   #16 (permalink)

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if I recall correctly, gold farmers have stated themselves when suffering bans that they are Blizzards best customers. They keep re-buying the game packages and restart paying subscriptions.

An odd dance for sure between Blizzard and the farmers. The ToSEULA two step
LOL. Nice.
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Old July 02, 2009, 09:13 PM   #17 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

Honestly I wont ever buy gold for the same reasons I let people who got the dreadsteed without doing the quest that I don't think they are real warlocks, it's the effort put in. Though as a side note all the gold sellers who have whispered me lately have been incredibly polite, which is pretty amusing but maybe that's just my server.
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Old July 02, 2009, 11:04 PM   #18 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

I have 6 toons above 60-all have epic land mount/ride skill-1 is a DK so I really only count 5 lol.Both warlocks & my pally have done the epic land mount quest chains-back in the day it was more expensive as well as more difficult to do the quests than just buy a mount/ride skill but also a great deal more fun & it felt like an achievement! Of those toons 4 are above 70-all of these have epic flying & at least 1 epic flying mount. Of those 3 are level 80 & all have cold weather flying-my pally is halfway through 76 & has the gold for cold weather flying.

I have never bought gold & I'm awful at the AH game. By the same token I have never just simply "farmed gold" for the sake of a mount or other item. I have simply played as I would normally & saved my gold to reach my goal.

I do have an issue with gold farmers who constantly farm an area for herbs/mining nodes etc. I have the same issue with players who use farming bots etc. like that glider program to do the same thing. I don't mind competion for herbs/nodes- if another player gets to 1 before me then grats thats the way it works & i'll do my best to get to the next 1 faster but the herb/mining runs I do are to support my own raiding, professions & skillups in those professions. I have no problem with helping friends/guild members-I always leave the anounce part of gatherer on so it broadcasts where nodes/herbs etc. are to guild members & friends.

Gold farmers need to be banned & IP banned-though I realise this will not stop them & until blizzard develop a way to meet the "I want it now & I don't care how I get it" attitude then I don't think things wil change much.
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Old July 03, 2009, 12:29 PM   #19 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

I think gold selling will always be a problem as long as people (who ever they are) can buy it and not get suspended.

Im not sure if anyone here plays Eve Online but in that game you can use real money to buy a Gametime code and then sell the code on the eve website to another player for ingame money. And its all allowed in there EULA. You can also trade characters from one account to another so you can literaly buy the game a character that can fly the ships you want and then buy money to get that ship with out ever playing the game before. All legaly.

But guess what? They still have a problem with farmers selling ingame money directly for cash as its cheaper.



PS to anyone who is intrested...
I personaly know a guy in my corp (like a guild) who got enough time codes to buy a capital ship. This is crazy as if you where to add it up it would probably come to around £2000 in codes. The fact that you can lose it in a fight and never get anything back is just nuts!
In theory you could if you where mad or rich enough you could buy a Titan (largest capital ship in the game) for around £10,000 pounds (yes i did out in the right number of 0s-).


This needs to be a concern to Blizz if they ever make it possible to buy ingame money, so people just dont know when to stop -).
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Old July 03, 2009, 03:26 PM   #20 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

There are no real victims from gold farming.

One man loses the value he places on his time with "virtual" activities. Maybe the occasional person temporarily loses precious "virtual characters" oh my god no.

Another man gets enough money to buy his family a bowl of rice for dinner.

It doesn't take rocket science to figure out which is more important.
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