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View Poll Results: Do you like this decision by the Chinese government?
Yes, get rid of the gold-buying cheaters!! 181 62.85%
No, I don't mind working for things while others just buy it. 13 4.51%
To each his own. I don't care one way or another. 94 32.64%
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Old October 30, 2009, 03:05 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

Personally it really doesn't matter... log out of the Den and look at the first page advertising... its to sell gold. It's money and people can do what they want because they can. If the spammers keep going I just turn the channel off. I see it like people complaining about violence on television.... you can change the channel and you can turn the chat off...
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Old October 30, 2009, 03:47 PM   #82 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

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Personally it really doesn't matter... log out of the Den and look at the first page advertising... its to sell gold. It's money and people can do what they want because they can. If the spammers keep going I just turn the channel off. I see it like people complaining about violence on television.... you can change the channel and you can turn the chat off...
Saying you can look elsewhere is not a valid argument. Violence on Television? please, and you will say is also parents responsability to manage what their children are exposed. What about aids, children dying from hunger, turn off your TV is also a solution?

If you are concerned about something, you can stand up, discussed and listed the pros and cons.

On this, I don't really care cuz i'm not a gold buyer and don't use the AH that much. If blizz and players don't thik the game is going where it should because of gold seller, maybe it is time to act.
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Old October 30, 2009, 04:23 PM   #83 (permalink)

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There are really 2 issues, all be them connected: 1). People buying/selling Gold. 2). People spamming you with advertising.

Advertising spam is annoying... that's all there is to that really. I'd rather it wasn't there, especially the whispers but it doesn't ruin my day or anything.

As far as buying/selling gold goes, I see it as people pay for in-game items with either real money (gold buyers) or they pay for it with time. In real life some people have time to spare but not the money so can invest the time to play the game... farm for their own gold for days/weeks/months on end to get that one item they want. Or they can spend hours at set times in the week raiding for epic BOP items.

Of course there are others who can only snatch opportunities to play the game when real life allows but still want to be competitive/useful, so have to buy the gold they don't have time to farm for, to get the items they don't have time to raid for.

The benefit to the person with time is that they can aim for ANY item because obviously they also have the choice of BOP items that aren't available on the AH for gold.

Also I'd imagine that long term players find themselves falling into both of these categories at different times in their WOW life.

There's 2 currencies in WOW - you spend Money or you spend Time.

I really don't mind if it's taken me 2 months to grind rep to get that schematic to make that item (atm I'm grinding for a mechgeneer's chopper schematic) - and then someone else just buy's gold and purchases it off the AH in one day.

...doesn't bother me at all.

...two currencies: Time or Money.
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Old October 30, 2009, 04:23 PM   #84 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

I've often wondered why it is that Blizz doesn't just undermine this whole thing by actually offering a gold buying service. I'm sure everyone who is buying now is aware that it is just asking for trouble and would much rather do it "legally." It's not like you can buy the best stuff anyways, and they would be making more money. Sure it might unsettle the local economy a little but it is not like people would be buying gold in gross quantities that would completely destabilize the market. If someone wants to drop $500 to buy an in-game mammoth then I say why not let him.

You can't buy emblems... thought I suppose you could buy off a guild to have them gear you up, but that can happen now too.

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Old November 07, 2009, 12:36 AM   #85 (permalink)

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How to get rid of those pesty gold sellers that whisper you: Hit on them. Start flirting with them, say total bullshit and you'll find they leave you alone pretty quickly.
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Old November 08, 2009, 11:59 AM   #86 (permalink)

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I will say this. Do you realize how much gold farming has helped server Economy. Without steady farmers, there would be less than half the items on the AH. Prices would be crudely inflated. And contrary to what Blizz says. Most Gold sellers are not hackers and thieves. Most are just doing an average days work farming gold. They provide a service to support what some people are willing to pay for.


That is all
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Old November 08, 2009, 12:27 PM   #87 (permalink)

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My personal crusade to right the wronged name of gold farming

WE ALL gold farm and Blizzard knows this. Gold Selling is the activity which is against the TOS.

If you run dailes you are a gold farmer. If you complete quests after level 80 you are a gold farmer. If you "go herbing", mining, skinning, or farming for essences you are a gold farmer. There is nothing wrong with this.

If you take that gold and exchange it to another player for real life currency then you are gold selling. That can and will get you banned.
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Old November 10, 2009, 02:55 PM   #88 (permalink)

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Ofc i m against gold sellers but...
Blizzard is not normal with that banning. They should be sue. In my case my prepaid time had ended and 2 days after, when i wanted to prolong time to play, it say my acc had been banned. i went on my mail and i saw that i had been hacked someone changed my password and i got mail from blizz next mail was from blizzard who told me that my account had been cancled from exploiting economy, which is stupid. 1. I would never buy gold from gold sellers 2. i have 3 char level 80 on same releam so if i need money for echant i would just do dailys. 3. I m playing 90% time pvp and rest of time i go onyxia or VOA with my brother (he have his accaunt and even he dont know my password and i dont know his) 4. 99% time i have on all my 3 chars level 80 max 1000g so how can i sell anything??? 5. i send 1 webform about hacked account and 2 more webform about this LOL decision telling them that this is not normal what they did to me. and they didnt even reply me or explain what is going on.
6. i m student who is reciving money for education i m 2 year of Master of economy and i dont have even time to do what they are telling i m doing. and i dont have money for buying gold i have just enough to pay bills buy food and for wow.
Can someone help me? pls help
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Old November 11, 2009, 03:30 PM   #89 (permalink)

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Re: Poll: Chinese ban gold farming, good or bad?

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I will say this. Do you realize how much gold farming has helped server Economy. Without steady farmers, there would be less than half the items on the AH. Prices would be crudely inflated. And contrary to what Blizz says. Most Gold sellers are not hackers and thieves. Most are just doing an average days work farming gold. They provide a service to support what some people are willing to pay for.


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I have not bought and will not buy gold, choosing instead to craft and play the AH.

Becorath is right, though.

My ore supplier used to provide me w/ 50 ~ 100 stacks of saronite a day at AH prices. Lately, it's hard to find even a dozen stacks listed on the AH, and when it is, it's expensive enough that I don't buy it because of the reduced profit margin. Was he a gold farmer? Certainly. Was he a gold seller? I have no way of knowing, since I never saw him advertise himself as such.

Have you ever tried to farm Frost Lotus? Arctic Fur? Titanium ore? Eternal Fire? Who do you think spends the hours necessary to farm up a single stack of these for resale, much less several?

How do you distinguish between the "legitimate" farmers and those players who spend all of their time gathering? Between those that actually gathered the mats and those that just emptied somebody's guild bank?

Well, you can't, and unless you farm and craft everything yourself, you can't say with 100% certainty that you don't support gold farming/selling.

Buying/selling gold is a topic that people can be extremely passionate about, and both sides have valid opinions. It *is* prohibited by the TOS, though, giving more weight to those "against."

If one fully considers all aspects of it, though, some who denounce it may no longer be able to justify their claim that they don't "support" the gold sellers.
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