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October 12, 2009, 07:55 PM
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Lavath 80 Blood Elf Warlock Shadow Council US RP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Could it be?
Here's your green fire: Chaos Bolt - Spell - World of Warcraft |
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October 15, 2009, 05:05 PM
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Re: Could it be?
I think you already know that we're not talking about a single green spell. We want to cast fel chaotic green spells (plural). Get it? xD |
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October 15, 2009, 08:24 PM
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This doesnt make much sense. You say demonic energy doesnt mean demonology, but then you say demonology would be the study of demons and using demonic energy to enhance their powers and your own... So by your definition, how would we get demonic energy without demonology? All warlock magic isnt fel magic. We dont have one type of magic. We have several types of magic. We use shadow, fire, and fel magic. Yes warlocks use green fire according to lore. But ever think that maybe they were casting different spells? That maybe they were actually casting spells that used fel fire instead of elemental fire? Not all of your spells are going to have green fire. Like I said before, making our fire green just because it looks more sinister would be a mistake. If fel fire acted exactly like fire, whats the point of having fel fire? A pyro mage can make the argument to have green fire if it acted exactly like the fire he has. Fel fire is NOT the same as elemental fire, so why make our fire spells green? |
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October 15, 2009, 11:55 PM
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Re: Could it be?
I think you may have actually converted me there, I've always liked the idea of warlocks having green fire just for the visuals but say if they made our fire spells green when we used our empower spell ability in cataclysm. Which I'm sure I've read that idea here somewhere. |
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October 16, 2009, 12:57 AM
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Meankeb 80 Human Warlock Khaz Modan US PvE Guild: Virtue Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Could it be?
Agree on Demo being more lore based for Fel Fire. I always wanted it because my Infernal was green, my Drain Life is green, and I wanted my other spells to be as well. But calling Fel Fire anything but Fire damage doesn't fit with the current classes that we use for resistances. They've already taken the stance that it's not Arcane in the game by calling it "chaotic fire"...of course Drain Life is Shadow, so... |
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October 16, 2009, 03:13 AM
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Re: Could it be?
Bunch of pyro's round here. They won't change the mechanics of incinerate/immolate/soul fire/searin pain to Fel (ish) like Chaos Bolt, cuz then they would pierce thru stuff and 51st point talent would be rendered somewhat obsolte. Not to mention it being OP as hell.. Considering most destro locks don't even use a 3rd minor glyph why not let locks "dye" the color of thier spells? They don't want minor glyphs to be "cosmetic" in nature, yet a glyph that makes my Eyeball fly around is about as good as it gets. Why stop at green fire? Purple fire? Blue fire? Rainbow fire that shits hearts and sunshine?? (my choice for sure).
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October 16, 2009, 11:23 AM
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Look at Chaos Bolt. If you look at wowhead, the damage it does is still considered fire damage, but it does something that no other fire spell can do: pierce through shields and cant be resisted. Fel magic was used to change the nature of the fire spell and turned into fel fire, which is green. Empowering a spell using a soul shard is putting demonic or fel energy/magic into the spell. So our fire spells turn into fel fire spells. And I guess our shadow spells turn into fel shadow spells lol. The "Dye Glyph" would be cool too. But only if we get more then a few colors. Pink Incinerates FTW!!!! |
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October 17, 2009, 08:09 AM
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Re: Could it be?
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> [Suggestion] Minor Glyph: Green Fire Look for Porfiry on page 4. He copy/pasted what I said in a "green fire suggestion" topic within the forums. I know it's been one of you, guys!  P.S. maybe that "new and flashy spell" culd be Soul Burn. Just like Pyrnon said. Last edited by miros; October 17, 2009 at 08:42 AM.. |
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October 17, 2009, 12:35 PM
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Pernicious 80 Blood Elf Warlock Dark Iron US PvP Guild: Allmacht Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Could it be?
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So, yes, Green Fire (or Fel Fire) is made from the corrupting force that is Fel Energy. Warlocks are known to use Fel Energy in our spells, which is why we bear a remarkable resemblance to the armies of the Burning Legion as far as our abilities are concerned. It stands to reason that since the Burning Legion uses Fel Fire in it's spells, that we too would be using Fel Fire with our fire spells. That is the crux of the argument for Green Fire as far as Lore is concerned. From a game standpoint, Players simply want to be different. Right now a Warlock that primarily uses fire spells doesn't stand out from a Mage using fire spells. Color is a very basic, and very visual, means of distinguishing one class from the other even if the spells are basically the same when it comes right down to it. I believe that is the other reason people really want Green Fire. Personally, I don't care for the second reason, but as evident in many of my posts, I DO care about lore. Blizzard has done such a careful job of crafting the lore and showing it in the game that it just makes sense that green fire should be there as well. I was originally against it, but after enough thought and reading up on it, I've decided to change my mind. However, I won't be disappointed if Blizzard opts not to change all our spells to green fire. When it comes down to it, Blizzard could just decide that players only use Fel Energies in a limited way, such as summoning our Demons, and Chaos Bolt and that we use regular fire magic in all other cases. I think when the new shard system is in place, it would be fantastic to grant us Green Fire whenever we "empower" one of our fire spells by breaking a shard. The added destruction of a soul could be considered a reagent to accessing Fel Energies to empower our spells. But again, enough of the "Fallen Mages" line. It's just so beneath us.
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