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Old October 30, 2009, 03:30 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Erodorael
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Chromaggus US PvP
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Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

Ok, so I think our MT is getting irritated with me for pulling threat occasionally. Like tonight we were going for hodir HM and I died to melee twice...

So i've never used an add on for threat. I've always relied on the Blizz threat meter that is already a part of the game. But after tonight, i decided to get Omen to see if it would help me pick up on threat issues sooner.

So I installed it...and went out to see how it worked. Let imp pull mob before I put a dot up to see how I would build threat.

It shows about 10% MORE threat then the blizz meter!

So what is the consensus? that the blizz meter is crap? everyone uses omen?

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Old October 30, 2009, 04:15 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

Those that don't use omen i can guarantee are not in a top guild. Simply, omen is a must for raiding. Those that don't have it i /sigh at you
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Old October 30, 2009, 05:10 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Dragonblight US PvE
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Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

I use omen and I am not in a top guild.
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Old October 30, 2009, 05:40 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

I guess you get the warning 10% earlier at omen. Check omen's settings. The % when you get the warning is by default set at 90%. That might be it.
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Old October 30, 2009, 05:45 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Spinebreaker Euro PvP
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Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

I may be wrong on this as I haven't used the in game threat warning for a while but doesn't the blizzard meter only go up to 100%? Meaning that it shows you how close you are to pulling aggro rather than what your threat is in relation to your tank. Ranged dps can go to 130% of the tanks threat before they pull aggro so it's not a surprise that omen shows higher threat than the Blizzard meter.

But yes, Omen is brilliant, I couldn't live with out it. Remember, it also shows your threat per second so you can measure your threat generation against your tank and adjust your play style accordingly.
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Old October 30, 2009, 06:42 AM   #6 (permalink)

Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

the presentation is different

blizzard caps out at 100% where the % is the chance you'll pull aggro

omen displays your actual threat output where the % is representative of how much threat you're pumping out with respect to others

neither is crap or wrong because Omen feeds off blizzard anyway
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Old October 30, 2009, 06:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Gnomeregan US PvE
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Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

If you wish to continue using the default Blizzard threat indicator, hold back on your DPS sooner than 90%. Depending on RNG and your tank's cooldowns/rotation/etc, one good crit will have you spamming Soul Shatter.
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Old October 30, 2009, 07:08 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

Just pick omen and be done with. There's a reason why everyone use it. As for myself i never understood quite well what a percent means for threat. So a graphical bar display similiar to recount's damage done it's perfect for me. Way more explicit.
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Old October 30, 2009, 08:13 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Proudmoore US PvE
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Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

Here is my opinion on threat, if you give the tank a split second before starting your dps rotation then any aggro issues as long as you are at 20 yards or more range belongs to the Tank.

As far as add-on go, Skada damage meter has a built in threat meter that will show if you set it when in combat mode. You can set the warning to 0 to 130% and it works quite well. Nice thing about it you get damage meters and threat meters.

I recommend setting up the Audio component of either meter Omen or Skada. I prefer the "You are Going to Die" alert. Once I here that I know to hit SS dropping threat.

If I have to shatter it is the tanks fault, if the tank dies it is the healers fault, if we all survive and the boss dies a horrible death then all Glory goes to Me.
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Old October 30, 2009, 08:19 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Re: Threat: Omen vs. Bizz meter

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If I have to shatter it is the tanks fault, if the tank dies it is the healers fault, if we all survive and the boss dies a horrible death then all Glory goes to Me.
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