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March 20, 2007, 06:47 PM
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Illuvatar 70 Undead Warlock Anvilmar US PvE Guild: Club WarCraft Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 6/44/11 |
Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
*** I have merged several 'UA vs Felguard' threads into one. Please note the dates on the posts in this thread, they begin in early 2007. The later replies are more recent. *** Hi all, I recently hit 69 and reached Unstable Affliction. The rest of my talent points are in Demonology. Draining is a big part of my weaponry along with Corruption, Curse of Agony, and Immolate, and now UA joins the lineup. Now that I have have UA and intend to boost my shadow damage (and overall spell damage), is it still wise to use Immolate? Thanks! |
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March 20, 2007, 06:51 PM
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Gritz 80 Orc Warlock Eldre'Thalas US PvE Guild: Fate Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Destro |
re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
Sure, it's another DoT - though I admit I got lazy and used to skip it when I was UA specced. Butt If you don't have Bane, and have a lot more + shadow than +damage/+fire, might just want to spam Sbolt until you need to reapply DoTs. -Gritz |
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March 20, 2007, 06:58 PM
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Conchrot 70 Undead Warlock Anub'arak US PvP Guild: Revolving Door Profile: Blizzard Armory |
re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
Immolate can be dropped from your regular rotation once you get UA. It's not an affliction effect, so it doesn't help your Drain Life. The only time you will ever use Immolate again is on lengthy boss fights or on shadow immune mobs. It might seem like Immolate will give you some extra damage when soloing, but it's really just a waste of mana.
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March 20, 2007, 11:43 PM
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re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
yeah, when i got UA i rarely cast imolate, i put it to the side incase i need to use it but pretty much it goes UA, Curse of Agony, Corr, SL then DL till dead |
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March 21, 2007, 03:51 AM
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Duckie 70 Undead Warlock Stormrage Euro PvE Guild: Elitism Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/31/40 |
re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
UA has the same cast time and does more damage  I only cast immolate as extra dot when I have time for it |
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March 21, 2007, 07:01 AM
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re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
I saw a bunch of people doing the math on this one last week. Basically, even for an affliction build, a full immolate is better than casting a shadowbolt assuming you would have casted a shadowbolt instead. |
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March 21, 2007, 08:08 AM
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re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
WesSeid is right If you have Bane , Immolate is never worth dropping unless you have an unattainable about of shadow. |
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March 21, 2007, 09:32 AM
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Duckie 70 Undead Warlock Stormrage Euro PvE Guild: Elitism Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/31/40 |
re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
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If you are realy affiction and want max damage, you will not have bane.... Anyway, the cast you do is dependant on the damage cycles you run and the ammount of mana you spend. If all dots are up, I already drained up to 100 health and mana, I will cast a shadowbolt or when my trinket procs increase casting speed, I will renew to dot with casttime with the lowest runtime (immolate or UA that is) and cast a SB after that, using the lack of global cooldown after this cast to renew a instant curse, simply because it will give me the highest damage output in that cast. |
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March 21, 2007, 09:45 AM
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re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
are you saying your template would outdamage UA + Bane template? |
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March 21, 2007, 10:22 AM
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Nunchuck 70 Undead Warlock Moonrunner US PvE Guild: Sealab Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 41/1/19 |
re: Recently Acquired UA - do I still use Immolate?
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Really? My affliction build drops 11 into destruction to gain Shadowburn via Bane.. and I don't see a better alternative for a shadow-preferred affliction lock (this leaves plenty of points to get to UA in the affl tree) |
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