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Old November 16, 2007, 02:38 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Alhazred
80 Undead Warlock
The Venture Co Euro RP PvP
Guild: Ordo Templi Orientis
Talent Spec: 53/11/7
Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

"Respec"
"Destruction sucks. Respec."
"No serious lock specs destruction"
"Affliction is the best choice for a lock"
"Respec"

All these are quotes from friends, locks and non-locks when they see my build or when i tell them i like the Destro path. Everybody, but EVERYBODY tells me that for all aspects Affliction is the way.
They all show a disrespect for destruction, but an awe for Affliction.
This is my first WoW char. I was destruction from level 10 and i like the tree. I've learned my timers, my damage, my capabilities... And i think it's pretty powerful, only to become more powerful in later levels. I have several combos that if they crit, nobody can survive them.
The problem is that everybody disagrees with me. What i'd like to know, from a warlock community like this, is if indeed Destruction sucks. Should i respec? How difficult will it be to adapt to Affliction? Is Destruction worth sticking to?
I know Destro is fun, but i'm talking about efficiency. Can a Destro lock be evenly compared to an Affliction one?
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Old November 16, 2007, 02:45 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Tzarph
70 Gnome Warlock
Shattered hand Euro PvP

Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

Because it does.

Pull out yer mage if ya want destruction.
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Old November 16, 2007, 02:54 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Azrekel
70 Undead Warlock
Smolderthorn US PvP
Guild: Echo
Talent Spec: 24/37/0
Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

they say that because in raids aflict gets a good bonus from a shad, plus if you have an arc mage in your raid CoS buffs them you and the shad. and in pvp you have the mobility, and servivability, where as destro needs to be untouched to get most casts off.
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Old November 16, 2007, 02:56 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Lopennie
80 Gnome Warlock
Draenor US PvE
Guild: Paradox
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 54/17/0
Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

Destruction does not suck, The reason everyone goes Affliction is because its the "easy way" (note: i am also affliction, but i want to respec very badly) All you have to go for as far as raiding goes is Spell damage and Spell hit, while destruction needs crit.

Also Destruction takes way more skill in pvp than affliction does, and most people do not have that skill, so they just go affliction...Honestly Destruction is probly the most fun tree we have, but nobody wants to take the time to master it. So my advice, play what you like and dont listen to what other peope say.
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Old November 16, 2007, 03:00 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Zakuzo
70 Gnome Warlock
Laughing Skull US PvP
Guild: The General Public
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

According to his armory, he's level 51 so he's not doing much raiding. As far as levelling goes, affliction (drain tanking) is the fastest and most efficient way to level.
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Old November 16, 2007, 03:02 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Azrekel
70 Undead Warlock
Smolderthorn US PvP
Guild: Echo
Talent Spec: 24/37/0
Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

im sl/sl, and in the arena/pvp i let the warrior take care of the destro lock. well it is common that it only takes my friends warrior about 2 or 3 hits to kill any non soul linked lock, 4 to 5 if they are.
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Old November 16, 2007, 03:04 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Kurmit
70 Human Warlock
Blackhand US PvE
Guild: Lobster Magnet
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 42/19/0
Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

Play the warlock the way you want to!!! Thats what the game is about, you paying the money to play on YOUR account and have fun doing it.

There is nothing wrong with testing out different theories about different specs. All the trees have fun tweeks in them, so experiement. Don't limit yourself to just one tree because someone said that another tree is better than the other. Play a warlock with what ever spec you choose and make work for you.

But for the love of god, don't let anyone ruin your fun playing the game the way you like or prefer.

Now for raiding there are several specs that might be allow you to squeeze a little extra dps out. But until you hit 70 and start raiding 25 man raids, thats irrelevant.
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Old November 16, 2007, 03:41 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Rathmere
62 Undead Warlock
The Sha'tar Euro RP Guild: Losian Sawul
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 6/44/11
Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

I find destro is more usefull in instances too. there's never really enough time to let our dots tick fully before the target is dead.

plus i like being able to fall back on my fire damage when i get kicked/pummeld/school-locked. Affli locks can't fall back on their fire spells are efficiently as a good old destro lock.
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Old November 16, 2007, 05:42 PM   #9 (permalink)

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gimppy
70 Gnome Warlock
Archimonde US PvP
Guild: The Fremen Knights
Talent Spec: aff/dest
Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

I agree that you should play a spec that you enjoy.
As far as efficiency is concerned, yes affliction is very efficient. Lets just say that I never had to carry drinks or potions with me ever. Only now do I carry a stack just because in instances, you need to be as prepared as you can and be easy on the healers.
As far as affliction being easy, I could not disagree more. Just try juggling dots and fears on a handful of mobs. If you know how to play affliction right, there is no other spec that can mow down more mobs/hour. Sure destro might blow mobs away before they even touch you, but I can drop mob after mob so fast that I can barely keep up with looting. I've never skilled up my bandage skills past runecloth because I've rarely needed them. I can dps quite hard and still heal myself if needed. You cannot be out dps'd by any other spec if you play properly. It all depends what role you want to play. As trash killer, destro is king. As boss killer, affliction is king. Solo, it all depends how you want to play.
I believe there is a thread here where someone specced affliction from destro and couldn't keep up with his duties as raid leader due to having soo much to do. If anything he said destro was easy mode as you just spam a couple buttons. No need to concentrate.
Ultimately it is up to you though and don't let other people pressure you into doing something you don't enjoy.
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Old November 16, 2007, 05:53 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Valdor
70 Undead Warlock
Blackhand US PvE
Guild: Insubordination
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Why does everyone tell me that Destruction sucks?

I agree with Gimmy.

I played as full destruction from 50-70, and did some Kara raiding with it. It was cool seeing high numbers pop-up, but you only really cast 3, maybe 4, spells, which got really boring and too repetitive for my tastes.

When soloing, true you can usually kill a mob before it gets to you, but then you have to wait 30 seconds drinking afterwards.

I really do prefer the affliction spec right now. I can kill constantly without having to ever stop. I have an endless mana pool. I'm also almost always on top for damage on raids.

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