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February 16, 2009, 04:59 AM

#21 (permalink)

Fenz

Character Info
Fenz
80 Undead Warlock
Twilights Hammer Euro PvP
Guild: Sinister Ministry

Re: The Demonology Thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majestrix

Read the tooltip Demonic Empathy. It's not bugged. It's only supposed to proc when your pet crits a spell or an ability. For the FG, this means cleave and cleave only.
I highly doubt that will change as allowing it to proc off of white damage would basically make it a permenant buff...

Maj

It procs of normal crits too otherwise the uptime would be much lower.

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February 27, 2009, 01:37 AM	#22 (permalink)
Cormanthor Status: Dot, 'Lock and Drop it! Character Info Cormanthor 80 Human Warlock Gnomeregan US PvE Guild: Knights who say Ni Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Various	Re: The Demonology Thread! With 3.1 looming around the corner, I looked into a prospective build update for 0/56/15 and came up with this one. I just wish I didn't have to lose out on Imp Demonic Tactics. Edit: the third major glyph would be the new Meta glyph, of course. __________________ Some days it just not worth chewing through the restraints Last edited by Cormanthor; February 27, 2009 at 04:20 AM..

February 27, 2009, 02:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
Whistle Character Info Whistlepants 80 Human Warlock Quel' Dorei US PvE Guild: The Legends of Honor Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 00/41/30	Re: The Demonology Thread! Wonderful post by Splot. I have been RAIDing a 00/41/30 spec for a few weeks now with this Talent Tree lineup. My rotation is very simple - Just prior to the tank engaging I cast Demonic Empowerment -- Once the tank is engaged I start my fight rotation of Curse of Agony, Corr, Immo, Incinerate. This rotation is only changed on trash and AoE situations. As a good measurement I ran a 10 man Vault last night in which I topped all DPSers except a hunter. And he and I were both at the 3200 DPS mark with only 27 points between our final DPS numbers. I would love to see it increase more and I am sure it will with more 10/25 man gear. Right now only one of my trinkets and my staff are such, everything else is heroics or vendor gear. The main reason for my post here is to tell any of you locks out therethat have been struggling for higher end numbers to try this build and rotation. Once I did this it changed my whole playing experience. I thank Tupas and Adrob of Transgression (guild) on my server for their knowledge and insight. The game became fun again almost instantly, I was letting myself become obsessed with my lack of real DPS. That is no way to play!!! As an aside, I can not wait for Dual SPec, so I can have my affliction back with which to farm!

February 27, 2009, 02:29 PM	#24 (permalink)
Lephturn Character Info Lephlock 80 Blood Elf Warlock Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Team Awesome Talent Spec: 0/55/16	Re: The Demonology Thread! Why hit Demonic Empowerment before the fight starts? I normally wait until I get my DoT stack up before I hit DE, the thinking being that I want time for my FG to get a good Frenzy stack up to get the most out of it. __________________ http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t48311-simulationcraft_post_3_1_specs/ Lephlock 80 Demonology Warlock <TEAM AWESOME> - Earthen Ring US

February 27, 2009, 02:58 PM

#25 (permalink)

Whistle

Character Info
Whistlepants
80 Human Warlock
Quel' Dorei US PvE
Guild: The Legends of Honor
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 00/41/30

Re: The Demonology Thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lephturn

Why hit Demonic Empowerment before the fight starts? I normally wait until I get my DoT stack up before I hit DE, the thinking being that I want time for my FG to get a good Frenzy stack up to get the most out of it.

I wish I could answer that question, Leph, while we can't figure out why or how it is impacting the overall DPS we tested extensively on the "boss dummy" in IF and then did 2 Sethkk Halls runs. One using DE once the fight had begun and second using it before the FG engaged the enemy. In all our tests the DPS was slightly higher win DE was used prior to his initial attack and of course we renewed it as the CD expired each time. Granted these were perfectly timed rotations due to the lower levels. We did a real world in 10 man VoA with almost no difference but then again we had down DPS period with Arch charging about.

February 27, 2009, 03:02 PM	#26 (permalink)
dannywells Character Info nilasotry 80 Undead Warlock ice crown US PvE Guild: purgatory Talent Spec: 0/41/30	Re: The Demonology Thread! Sweet guide it really explains the build to those that have any questions. I am a 0/41/30 build although I speced a lil diffrent in that I chose to max my imp and and only out 2 points into DE. Depending on the raid and boss like you stated sometimes my Fel Guard is not the best option and well I like the imp every so often. As far as spell rotation it is pretty much the same one I use but I have been expermenting with COE. I have found that in 10 man its not viable to put it up as you loose some DPS. I do suggets that in 25 man you throw it out thier as the bonus benefits the whole group. In some cases thier may be more than one lock in the group if they got it up rock on with your bad self. Again thanks for all the work ya put into the post

February 27, 2009, 05:34 PM

#27 (permalink)

Lephturn

Character Info
Lephlock
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Team Awesome
Talent Spec: 0/55/16

Re: The Demonology Thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whistle

Huh, very interesting. Maybe the Demonic Empowerment buff to the FG's attack speed more than makes up for it by getting Frenzy stacked on the mob faster? I'll have to try this out myself this weekend.

Now to convince Bliz to let DE work on a Doomguard...