Hows this for a crazy arena build?

Mordakaii · June 17, 2008, 01:40 PM

Just trying to think of different things besides the usual "SL/SL" spec that might make the arena more enjoyable...

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rfMfzZ0xZxt0tr0thko

-Mordakaii

Kneeo · June 17, 2008, 01:44 PM

Crazy? Yes. Useful? Doesn't seem like it. :/

Tomey · June 17, 2008, 02:50 PM

meh, I dunno. I suppose in a BG you could have some fun with it but I would have to say it is not viable as an arena spec. You lack the survivability that soul link gives you, even though you might have improved DPS with the destro talents. If partnered with a healing class I am sure you could toy with it and likely win a few games, but if you are talking serious arena.....

That said...go for it, have fun and see what you can do with it. Then report back and let us know...heck, you might hit on the next great thing!

mcgee84 · June 17, 2008, 05:33 PM

Soul Leech really isn't enough help to replace a soul link on an hp pet..

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A 0/41/20 or 0/40/21 would be a new playing style, and depending on who else is on your arena team, and depending on the team rating, it's very possible that better burst damage would make up for losing another instant dot-heal.

Redmage · June 17, 2008, 08:06 PM

It is always great to try new things out. However, your build is not too optimal in the sense that you have a lot of 1 pt investment, which kinda means you might as well not have them due to the low %.

Try this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rmRdkoZ0LZxx0tr0tuu

One pt in Afermath, and one pt in Soul leech is not useful. On the other hand, you would want 3/3 Backlash for sure.

Getting Curse of exhaustion is also vital in helping you kite.

This spec is a lot of fun, you have ( I think) the most abilities or buttons to press. Unfortunately, this spec is underpowered on the raw stats aspects. You don't have Soul Link for survivability, but that is relatively a minor issue. The problem is that because of all the tricks you have with this build, you will be missing the damage scaling abilities like Shadow & Flame, Shadow Master, Emberstorm. So the damage is also relatively low.

You will have a good amount of potential burst in Nightfall, backlash, shadowburn, conflagrate and deathcoil. I think you also need good gear to make it worthwhile, because the investment is heavily into talent pts which give abilities.

Please see discussion on this spec and its variant: New arena build 22/5/34 !?

DrkSnpr14 · June 17, 2008, 10:04 PM

The nightfall/backlash build is a rare one, simply because it's only use is reactive situational damage (aka you need to get beat on to do anything)

If you where to stick with that, you want to max out backlash at least to make it viable.

Fignuts · June 18, 2008, 08:34 AM

I use this build and love it. My only thing is to make it more like this. I have been using it for about 2 months now. I got bored of trying everything else.

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June 17, 2008, 01:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mordakaii Registered Character Info Mordakaii 70 Blood Elf Warlock Shadowmoon US PvP Guild: ONOS	Hows this for a crazy arena build? Just trying to think of different things besides the usual "SL/SL" spec that might make the arena more enjoyable... http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rfMfzZ0xZxt0tr0thko -Mordakaii

June 17, 2008, 01:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kneeo Lurker Character Info Clezzy 70 Undead Warlock Akama US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Hows this for a crazy arena build? Crazy? Yes. Useful? Doesn't seem like it. :/

June 17, 2008, 02:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tomey Lurker Character Info Tomey 70 Gnome Warlock Anvilmar US Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 27/34/0	Re: Hows this for a crazy arena build? meh, I dunno. I suppose in a BG you could have some fun with it but I would have to say it is not viable as an arena spec. You lack the survivability that soul link gives you, even though you might have improved DPS with the destro talents. If partnered with a healing class I am sure you could toy with it and likely win a few games, but if you are talking serious arena..... That said...go for it, have fun and see what you can do with it. Then report back and let us know...heck, you might hit on the next great thing!

June 17, 2008, 05:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
mcgee84 Member Character Info Seton Human Warlock Arygos US PvE Guild: Supplemental Wrath Talent Spec: 41/3/17	Re: Hows this for a crazy arena build? Soul Leech really isn't enough help to replace a soul link on an hp pet.. Soul Leech - The Warlocks Den Forums A 0/41/20 or 0/40/21 would be a new playing style, and depending on who else is on your arena team, and depending on the team rating, it's very possible that better burst damage would make up for losing another instant dot-heal.

June 17, 2008, 08:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Redmage Member Character Info Ris 70 Gnome Warlock Bloodhoof US PvE Guild: Council of Arathor Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/14/47	Re: Hows this for a crazy arena build? It is always great to try new things out. However, your build is not too optimal in the sense that you have a lot of 1 pt investment, which kinda means you might as well not have them due to the low %. Try this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rmRdkoZ0LZxx0tr0tuu One pt in Afermath, and one pt in Soul leech is not useful. On the other hand, you would want 3/3 Backlash for sure. Getting Curse of exhaustion is also vital in helping you kite. This spec is a lot of fun, you have ( I think) the most abilities or buttons to press. Unfortunately, this spec is underpowered on the raw stats aspects. You don't have Soul Link for survivability, but that is relatively a minor issue. The problem is that because of all the tricks you have with this build, you will be missing the damage scaling abilities like Shadow & Flame, Shadow Master, Emberstorm. So the damage is also relatively low. You will have a good amount of potential burst in Nightfall, backlash, shadowburn, conflagrate and deathcoil. I think you also need good gear to make it worthwhile, because the investment is heavily into talent pts which give abilities. Please see discussion on this spec and its variant: New arena build 22/5/34 !?

June 17, 2008, 10:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
DrkSnpr14 Your Overlord Character Info Gallaira 73 Undead Warlock Galakrond US PvP Guild: Death and Destruction Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/5/59	Re: Hows this for a crazy arena build? The nightfall/backlash build is a rare one, simply because it's only use is reactive situational damage (aka you need to get beat on to do anything) If you where to stick with that, you want to max out backlash at least to make it viable.

June 18, 2008, 08:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
Fignuts Registered Character Info Fignuts 70 Gnome Warlock Ghostloands US PvE Guild: Exodar Community College Talent Spec: 41/7/11	Re: Hows this for a crazy arena build? I use this build and love it. My only thing is to make it more like this. I have been using it for about 2 months now. I got bored of trying everything else. Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft