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December 12, 2008, 10:27 PM
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Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
Since the Raiding Builds - Collecting all info!! thread was for level 70 builds, I'm kicking off a new one for level 80 builds. So in the continued effort to ease the 3001 daily "rate my build" threads, I'm putting it out to all the talent build experts to collate and gather information on the best RAIDING builds. The general idea behind this thread is to have people contribute and discuss raiding builds that we think should be listed as optimal builds to go to. If there appears to be certain builds that are classed as "best" for raiding, they will be worked into separate threads to highlight those builds. Below is a very rough guideline for the sort of information I'm looking for from those who want to contribute. There is no requirement to follow this layout, it's simply me thinking out loud. Feel free to customise is to suit you. Quote:
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December 12, 2008, 11:46 PM
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Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
This is my first real post on builds but here i go. Deep aff/ruin Talent numbers : 53 / 0 / 18 Talent link : Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft Deep affliction with ruin to boost those SB fillers. Good mobility and nice dps. You also have Drain Soul execute and Ruin if your like large numbers. The downside with this build is that you have pretty bad dps on thrash. Must have talents(according to me): Improved Corruption(5) - For instant corruption its a real no brainer.Optional changes: Improved Curse of Agony - Its a nice damage boost if you dont need to do CoE. Suppression - Missing DoTs really screws up your rotation. If you are hit capped i sugest moving the points. Improved Drain Soul - This is nice since you will generate a great amount of threat and reducing that is never wrong also it will help when your soloing since it will reduce your taps and by that keep your HP high. You can switch around the talents points i spent in those 3 for anything you want in the lower affliction three but you need the point in the lower three to get higher. Eradication - Its a nice talent since it helps you with your rotation and lets you squese more SB fillers in. Cataclysm -Again for the hit if you gonna do SB and Immolate why not have them hit. If you are hit capped i sugest moving the points. This is the specc i use and doing naxx10 today without being fully hit capped it landed me on the top 3 dps on bosses bested only by a DK and a hunter. I made this spec after reading much on the den forums and looking at ppls builds who was reporting great succes with deep aff raiding. I have always loved aff and never specced deep into any other three not even while lvling so im glad that i can use it while raiding to. This may make me a little partial but who doesn't like seing 1,5k tics. I'm gonna be tweaking thiss specc as i get more hit and move point to eradication and maybe get darkpact to get back my mana battery which i saccrified in this build for hit%. I'm also thinking about getting molten core for buffing my immolate and maybe get Improved Imp and/or Improved Health Stone for better raid utility. Now im gonna go sleep becouse i have been writing for the last hour and its getting real late hope you enjoy this post and hope to see more DoTs on bosses in 25 mans(bigger DSe hehe). Edit: Some bad spelling and probably some left, like i said it's getting pretty late. Last edited by Beowolf; December 12, 2008 at 11:50 PM.. |
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December 13, 2008, 10:00 AM
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Crimsonhead 80 Undead Warlock Executus US PvP Guild: Highscore Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
Great Spec, I was this spec not to long ago, now im just trying out some new things just for clarification for others, the rotation should be: Curse of Agony ---> Corr ---> Siphon Life ---> (optional immolate)----> UA----> Haunt now if you do this right, and you are on time, you NEVER have to reapply corruption as long as you reapply haunt in time, the immolate is there if you feel comfortable managing all the dots, of course, when not firing DoTs, just fill with shadow bolts. It's a lot of fun, guranteed to really get you a nice top dps spot and have some nice high crits  . Gear wise, your going to want to some haste, and spell damage (duh), but dont neglect crit (ofc, Hit is the most important stat, once you get around 380, with talents you should be ok). IF ya do things right this spec will be very nice once those op hunters are nerfed For glyphs: Get Glyph of Corruption - 4% chance on corruption tick to proc instant shadow bolt (does stack with nightfall, making it 6%) Glyph of UA - reduces cast time of Unstable Affliction Glyph of Siphon Life - Increases effect of Siphon Life by 20% so ya, fun spec, good times nice dps and damage, try it out if your feeling bold with that rotation, it sure is a killa
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December 13, 2008, 04:06 PM
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gnomishfear 80 Gnome Warlock eldre'thalas US PvE Guild: Hells Warriors Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 40/31 |
Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
i'm specd affliction atm...i need to respec just to clean up some stray points i tossed out while level'ing. my thing is this people keep telling me to spec destro that my build is all wrong... also that crit is more important than gettin hit cap etc... The World of Warcraft Armory thas my armory page i've gotten a few epics but they arent on the page yet. hopefully posting this here doesnt get people angry lol thanx. 
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December 13, 2008, 05:36 PM
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Vaell 80 Blood Elf Warlock Scarshield Legion Euro RP PvP Guild: The Final Contingency Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30 |
Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
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No anger here starcast, though please bear in mind this thread is for showing the community working level 80 raiding builds with confidence. If you need help with your build I advise you to submit your questions in this format: How to submit a talent build question! In this section: Talent Builds - Help Thanks for understanding.
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December 13, 2008, 06:52 PM
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Jesterlock 80 Gnome Warlock Quel'Thalas Euro PvE Guild: The Order of Azeroth Talent Spec: 3/15/53 |
Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
I think this thread shoulde be split somehow, so that it contains only raiding builds tested and found to yeld high dps or high survaviability or high sustenance for longer fights, depending on fights. There aren't that many builds really, i think maximum 10 can be achieved. So post those builds, and then comment on pluses or minuses of the builds, and good comments get added to the build itself. So it will be like a one stop thread for newly raiding warlocks. As a comment to iinferno21's post, the rotation you poposing is not very good. It has been established that the best rotation for deep affli specs starts with SB>Haunt. |
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December 13, 2008, 09:06 PM
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Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
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December 14, 2008, 07:44 PM
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Fearisnear 80 Undead Warlock Thunderlord US PvP Guild: Casual Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/40/31 |
Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
Presenting 0/40/31 - Click Here Concept is to gain the bonuses from your imp. I didn't deem the Felguard necessary as it's most likely to die in raids. By taking out the Felguard, it allowed me to tack on a percentage to the overall critical strike rating by tossing that talent point in Backlash. Your best bet is to just go with improved imp, and keep him out. Amount of bonus stats gained from the Felguard are practically the same as the imp ( With the exception of 3 spell power according to my analogy ). Imp also gives you more critical strike rating overall seeing as almost ALL of the rotation consists of fire damage. ( Immolate and Incinerate ). Of course, you would throw corruption on in order to help with Molten Core. Curse Of Elements is also necessary, but I'm sure that we're all aware of that here. So, the point is to keep Immolate and Corruption on while spamming Incinerate. I've yet to actually test this out, but will do so tonight on Malygos. My goal here is to excel on those dps charts, and I only hope to see that other Warlocks do the same. If you get around to testing out this talent build, be sure to leave some feedback on it. Hopefully this works out. It seems promising. ( Keep in mind that it's a good idea to have a good amount of critical strike rating, and be hit capped before thinking about using this build. ) Last edited by JustinRoy; December 15, 2008 at 06:41 AM.. |
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December 15, 2008, 04:02 AM
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Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
Talent numbers : 0 / 55 / 15 +1 (Meta/Ruin) Talent link : Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft Deep demo felguard build with a relatively simple playing style compared to other raiding builds. Performs quite acceptable in raids while also being a good soloing and 5-man spec. Must have talents: Demonic Brutality (3 points), Fel Vitality (3 points), Unholy Power (5 points) - all three talents buff your felguard's DPS. Master Demonologist (5 points) - one of the key talents in any deep demo build, 5% extra damage done is quite nice. Metamorphosis (1 point) - an extra trinket, basically. Some utility, but mostly due to the 30 seconds with 20% extra damage. Demonic Tactics (5 points) - 10% extra crit doesn't need more explaining Ruin (5 points) - 100% extra crit damage. Again, shouldn't need to be explained really. Imp Demonic Tactics (3 points) and Demonic Pact (5 points) - DP is a nice buff if you don't have an ele shammy along for ToW, and Imp DT provides a higher uptime on it. Optional changes: 2/2 imp healthstone could be changed to a maxed demonic embrace if you have another warlock with maxed imp hs. The point in shadowburn could be put several places - mana feed, demonic sacrifice, cataclysm or even demonic reach. I personally found shadowburn to be the best choice for my gear and playing style, but experience may vary. Glyphs: Felguard - Corruption - Shadow Bolt. Rotation: Petattack - Curse of Agony/Doom - Immolate - Corruption - Boltspam (With demonic empowerment macro'd in). On trash I only put corruption on all targets, then spam bolts - trash dies too fast for your dots to be of any real use. I haven't used meta on trash a lot - I guess I should, but again, it dies so fast anyways. Generally, if the boss lasts more than 3 minutes, I usually pop meta right at the start so It'll go off cooldown during the fight. On shorter bossfights, I pop meta on heroism/bloodlust. Good points: + High survivability when solo-farming + A well-timed meta with heroism and trinkets give some really powerful burst damage. + Performs well with pre-raid gear and early raid gear. + Simple rotation + Demonic Pact and imp hs makes for good raid buffs. Negative points: - May not scale very well with high-end gear, haven't tested yet :P - Demonic Pact is useless if you have elemental shaman (at least until you pass 2800 spellpower buffed). - Relies a lot on your pet staying alive which can be a challenge in specific fights. - No +hit talents, so requires a relatively high amount of hit on gear Stat priority: +hit (till capped - spellpower - crit (till 25-30% on char, then haste becomes more important) - haste. |
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December 15, 2008, 11:54 AM
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Re: Level 80 Raiding Builds - What are they?
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I just want to go on record and back this build. My DPS since I've switched to this build is between 2400 and 2800 depending on the boss. I will add though, that you do not need crit really at all on your gear for this build. In fact, all you really need is hitcap. You draw your spell power from Stats and just about every piece of gear you would want to wear will have extremely solid stats on it. I have modified the build, slightly, as Fel Synergy passively buffs your spell power from Demonic Knowledge: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft In addition, when heroism/bloodlust is called, try spamming Soul Fire while Molten Core is procced.....I laugh like a madman. My rotation is Curse of Agony, Corruption, Immolate, Incin Spam with my Imp attacking and Empowered as much as possible. I use the Corruption Glyph, Imp Glyph, and Healthstone Glyph (my own personal preference as my Healthstones crit for near 12K on use). Your AoE spell with this build isn't SoC....it's RoF and it hits like a truck. The build is amazingly flexible vs. deep fire destruction: Your DoTs to proc MC are actually worth keeping up as you have such enormous raw spell power that they tick very, very hard. Gearing for this build, in my opinion is: Spell Hit to pure cap (446) > Spell Power > Haste. Don't gear for crit. At all. You proc nothing from it other than ridiculously massive numbers off crit, of which you are getting 20% on your fire spells, anyway. I was depressed until I found this build. Sevlana posted it originally, and thank you so much. It's engaging to play and you do ridiculous amounts of damage. |
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