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Old February 12, 2009, 12:44 PM   #1 (permalink)

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oosel
80 Gnome Warlock
darkspear Euro PvE
Guild: apex
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 41/30
a question on builds

im quite happy with my current full destro build and know i can do whats asked of me in raids and always manage to rank in the top 5. we have 2 affliction locks that beat me with ease and here is my question has it been proven without any doubt that a destro build cannot compete with an affliction build in terms of dps i dont like affliction as im already busy rotation wise with my destro build but i want to make sure
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Old February 12, 2009, 12:49 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Tragik
80 Gnome Warlock
Khadgar US PvE
Guild: Can Heal Stupid
Talent Spec: 0/56/15
Re: a question on builds

I personally think it can. But:

The gear isn't there.

It's harder to play.

It's more sensitive to lag than affliction.

It's far more reliant on pet DPS.
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Old February 12, 2009, 01:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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80 Undead Warlock
Alleria US PvE
Guild: LCN
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 55/0/17
Re: a question on builds

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Old February 12, 2009, 02:58 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Ashaja
80 Human Warlock
Khaz'Goroth Oceania PvE
Guild: Spartan
Talent Spec: 54/17/0
Re: a question on builds

Are you talking dps or overall damage? An Aff-Lock will always out-damage a destro because they can attack multiple targets more effectively.
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Old February 12, 2009, 03:55 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Pyrnon
Blood Elf Warlock
Shadow Council US RP Guild: Stormborn

Re: a question on builds

On trash there is no doubt that destro will beat out affliction. On bosses affliction will beat out destro 9 times out of 10. I have never played destro as I played affliction from the start, but affliction has a lot more things to watch out for and a lot of things have to go right to get that high amount of dps. It has a longer rotation and it is very dependant on having all your spells up at all times (not casting haunt cripples our dps).

Affliction has a lot more mobility from my understanding as well.

But its your lock and its a game youre paying for so do what you think will be better for you.


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Are you talking dps or overall damage? An Aff-Lock will always out-damage a destro because they can attack multiple targets more effectively.
Overall damage sure affliction might be able to keep up if all he did was AE, even then its extremely hard. But if you ever see an affliction lock at the top of overall dps, then he is either exploiting something, his group/raid isnt doing their job, or he is EXTREMELY lucky with AE crits.

Yes affliction can attack more targets, but we attack using dots. If your group/raid is doing their job, those dots wont go their full duration. Ever.
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Old February 12, 2009, 04:56 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Seton
Human Warlock
Arygos US PvE
Talent Spec: 53/13/0
Re: a question on builds

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Yes affliction can attack more targets, but we attack using dots. If your group/raid is doing their job, those dots wont go their full duration. Ever.
Which means even as affliction, a lot of those dots would have been mana/time better-spent on a DD.
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Old February 12, 2009, 05:34 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Tianshaan
80 Human Warlock
Terokkar US PvE
Guild: Vae Victus
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: a question on builds

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im quite happy with my current full destro build and know i can do whats asked of me in raids and always manage to rank in the top 5. we have 2 affliction locks that beat me with ease and here is my question has it been proven without any doubt that a destro build cannot compete with an affliction build in terms of dps i dont like affliction as im already busy rotation wise with my destro build but i want to make sure
Okay first, please at least throw some punctuation in your posts, and maybe seperate with a paragraph or 2 to make it easier to understand

The highlighted sentence is them most important part of your post. Yes, you are going to be out DPSed by afflocks, and maybe the odd FG/Emberstorm build if that lock is very geared and the raid makeup is good.
But will that change the fact that you don't want to play affliction?
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Old February 13, 2009, 03:51 AM   #8 (permalink)

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oosel
80 Gnome Warlock
darkspear Euro PvE
Guild: apex
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 41/30
Re: a question on builds

no it wouldnt change the fact i dont like affliction spec . but in all fairness me not liking it doesn mean that i shouldnt consider swapping if it brings more to the raid for our guild.
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Old February 13, 2009, 05:04 AM   #9 (permalink)

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remma
70 Human Warlock
blade's edge US PvE
PvP
Talent Spec: 0/5/56
Re: a question on builds

I've always been destro...(i should also mention i have not even played LK yet) but never the less, in all instances i played, we always looked at total damage done over dps(if you are in to that kinda thing..)I always have noticed that DPS and most damage done per instance are usually 2 different people, at least in my experiences. I keep up with all the posts here and other spots as well and makes me happy to see that destro seems like it will be where it should, as the gear gets better.Just looking at the trees (I been messing around with builds to see what im gonna do) affliction is kinda tempting,BUT, depending on raid make up destro has to be the most fun to play. Now that there is no CD on soulfire, it makes some destro builds more intersting depending on how many shards you wannna bring with you. If shards were not a factor, it seems a dedicated destro lock can kick some major mob,boss or not.I personally will farn the **** outta shards to bring to heroics/raids and use SF over CB. Is it just me, or should we be the only ones BRINGING THE PAIN dps/damage wise?!!(ESPECIALLY DESTRO!)The name says it all. Destruction might not be best overall DPS in most cases(ElitistJerks!)but we will prevail as in BC, because gear says it all and the best gear is yet to come......

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Old February 13, 2009, 06:10 PM   #10 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Terokkar US PvE
Guild: Vae Victus
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: a question on builds

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no it wouldnt change the fact i dont like affliction spec . but in all fairness me not liking it doesn mean that i shouldnt consider swapping if it brings more to the raid for our guild.
I don't agree here at all. If you bring enough dps for your raid leader, then play what you like.
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