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March 11, 2009, 09:29 PM
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deadmaneight 80 Undead Warlock malfurion US PvE |
Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
Character Name: DeadmanEight Armory Profile: The World of Warcraft Armory Wowhead link of current build in use: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZfhczstRV0zZVcGVd0uVkA Wowhead link of proposed build: Not sure. Looking for a hybrid or deep destruction based build. PvE Play style and Requirements of build: Looking to maximize my DPS in Instance/Raiding. Just beginning to run 10/25 man raids and running instances on Heroic my DPS is coming up short always. PvP Play style and Requirements of build: I run some WG and some fo the other PVP battlegrounds. Would like to have some ability to not be a sitting duck, but not as important as the instance/raid. Additional Comments: I have read all the posts and have tried a couple of the builds in the most popular area and always seem to be coming up short. I am currently casting Immolate, Curse of Agony, Conflag, Chaos Bolt and then Incinerate spam until and then rinse and repeat. My DPS is always around 2000 but I see other locks with less gear pulling off 3000+. I keep the DOT's up but not at the expense of an Incinerate cast. I run with my Imp out. |
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March 11, 2009, 10:41 PM
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Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
I suggest you give a felguard hybrid a try. They are simpler. I think Deep Destro is actually more complicated than Affliction in many ways, and the damage potential is not much better than a hybrid if it's even better at all. This is the standard 41/30 felguard build. Curse of Agony>Corruption>Immo>Incinerate spam. Whether or not you even cast Corruption is somewhat debatable and mostly based on whether you have 2pT7 (which you apparently don't but should consider getting if at all possible) and whether Molten Core is currently on the target. Glyphs would be Immolate/Felguard/Curse of Agony The other reason to use this now is that in 3.1 the evolution of this build will near the best if not the best DPS build possible if ptr indications are to be given any credit. Better to learn it's intricacies now before everyone switches to it and its FOTW status. Also, H8 you for having IotDS, give. 
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March 11, 2009, 10:42 PM
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Khloro 80 Gnome Warlock Khadgar US RP PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay in Engrish Also odd thing wowstats had me about 100 dps higher.. Almost broke 6k! Immolate,Curse of Agony,Corr,Innc till dots fall off and reapply dots, also always have Demo empowerment up when its off GCD. Groups could been setup better in raid perhaps and would of hit 6k for sure. One thing that help me a ton is power auras. Power Auras Classic : WoWInterface Downloads : Buff/Debuff/Spell Mods I get an icon in my face dot is not ticking or dot has fallen off. If you need my configuration on that mod i can post my setup files. Of course make sure pet is raid buff is a must PS Glyps Immolate Curse of Agony FG ______ |
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March 11, 2009, 10:57 PM
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Aily 80 Human Warlock Doomhammer US PvE Guild: Arisen Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
well gear + cataclysm = 12%. if you have an Unholy DK or Spriest that still leaves you at 15%. So you have 2% more hit (at least) to get. You need the blue gems for meta so nothing to do about that. And perhaps this for build? WorldofWarcraft.com - Talent Calculator Ya know, if you want to stay destro Destro is annoying as heck to get through in the middle isn't it? Oh, definitely get the conflag Glyph You'll want to Curse of Agony -> Chaos -> Immo -> Conflag -> Incin, Incin, Incin -> Conflag -> Incin, Incin, Chaos Bolt or some variation close to it to take huge advantage of conflag not consuming immolate. Other 2 I myself would hit up Immolate and Imp Last edited by SINisterW; March 11, 2009 at 11:02 PM.. |
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March 12, 2009, 01:06 AM
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Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
SinisterW, why are you throwing chaos bolt so early in the rotation? Back when I was deep destro I always held the chaos bolt back till after I had thrown a conflag to get the haste buff on the CB. Don't be afraid to throw a soulfire once in a while as well, esp when you get a good haste buff like bloodlust or an egg of mortal essence proc. The long cast time is a bit of a killer unhasted, but when you've got haste buffs up it can be a good boost to your DPS. But watch yourself if you start slinging soulfire alot, yeah the big numbers look nice, but it's pretty embarrasing when you can't SS your healer after a bossfight because you burned all of your shards soulfiring the last boss. |
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March 12, 2009, 04:22 AM
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Vacuity 80 Gnome Warlock Ragnaros Euro PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
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Would love it to be even better than now, but I don't see it. Show me otherwise!
Last edited by vacuity; March 12, 2009 at 04:22 AM.. Reason: spelling |
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March 12, 2009, 04:25 AM
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Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
I am Destruction warlock myself, and doing good amount of damage to boss/trash etc. whataver, they die fast! First of all your talents spent in talent tree is not the best to my opinion. Fire and Brimstone, must have all 5 points spent there, its a dps increase no other words. have done some runs and it seems soul leech atm is not needed, not for you not for raid. So get out those points and put where they need more. and shadowfury? more like pvp skill (and my favorite pvp skill  , so this is not needed in rotation for destro.Your rotation: Where is Corruption? Why you leave it? its a dps too. So try to get that up always. My rotation as Desro wlock : Curse of Agony -> Corr -> Immo -> ChaosB -> Conflg - > 3x Incinerate So if you casted these standing in place, you have time to do another incinerat, after refresh Immo, and Corruption, Then you cans CB, Conflag, Curse of Agony, and again 2x Incinerat. Repeat! The World of Warcraft Armory <- My armory, doing 5,7dps on Razuvious, etc as Destro. Its a nice tree you just need to keep an eye up! Good luck! If any question, will try to answer. |
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March 12, 2009, 11:41 AM
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Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
This build SHOULD do more damage because, I agree with the above, it's harder to manage than affliction and has bad mana regeneration in comparison to the self-sufficiency of affliction. The problem with this build is that Fire and Brimstone and Chaos bolt simply aren't as good for PVE as putting those points into Demonology and buffing either your Imp or, as stated above, picking up a Felguard. |
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March 12, 2009, 11:59 AM
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Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
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This build is the current leader with glyph of Immo and the new glyphs Incin and Lifetap Now, I'm no huge fan of Simucraft, and my personal opinion is that Decimation builds like 41/30 are being overvalued in that thread, but only slightly. Simucraft did a pretty good job of predicting Aff/Ruin as the #1 DPS spec, so you can't just dismiss it out of hand. If you believe that thread then 41/30 will be the top DPS spec in 3.1 if the patch went live today. If you think Decimation builds are being slightly overvalued like me then 41/30 is probably 2nd best. So it's not proof, lots of things could change still, but I think you can see why I would reference 41/30 as an up and coming top DPS spec. Last edited by Koldfeat; March 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM.. Reason: Grammar |
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