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March 13, 2009, 02:28 PM
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Sacraman 80 Undead Warlock Khadgar US PvE Guild: Off Topic Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 5/13/53 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
So, did it help? I have the exact same problem, with gear that's not as good. I have hit cap but there's a lot to be desired still. My gear: The World of Warcraft Armory Last time I did Patchwerk I didn't quite have all that gear but I did 2.4k, which I think is really low. I typically do low 2K on bosses. Should I be doing more? Rotation is complicated with the conflag glyph, I usually do something like Curse of Agony-corr-immo-conflag-incin-incin-incin-sb-incin (or conflag if up) and then refresh dots, use conflag when up, use sb when up and Curse of Agony/corr are already up. Please check my talents from that build also. A few notes: - I haven't yet put Lightweave on the cloak, getting there as soon as my mooncloth's cooldown is over. - I'm working on the getting Exalted with Sons of Hodir to get the better enchant. We already have an affliction lock in our raid so I think afflic is not an option for me. I'd like to keep Shadowfury as we're stuck at Gluth and I think its aoe stun helps on the zombie chows. Should I also switch to FG/emberstorm? Meta/Ruin even? Too bad, I think I'm finally getting the rotation down, I'm just not seeing the payoff... Our affliction lock does around double my dps (sure, better gear but still), I'd like to come close at least... Oh and is the egg trinket worth it? Will it keep proccing on Fel Armor post 3.1? Any suggestions as to what to do better? I'm looking for bang-for-the-bug, like easy-to-get enchants or respecs.. Gear advice that implies random drops I can't do much with... I'm already running 25-man naxx, I'll get what I get :( .. Thanks so much! |
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March 13, 2009, 03:15 PM
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Lavath 80 Blood Elf Warlock Shadow Council US RP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
Sacraman, first let me say that I am also struggling with dps and this build (or a similar one). I've done a couple of things that have gotten me to 4.4k on patch but I know that my gear and spec are capable of much more. First, glyph of conflag, immolate, and imp should be in use. (I think you said you are already using conflag). I think people have been saying not to throw corruption in your rotation as it can ultimately decrease your dps due to GDC+lag time of casting it, though that is a completely different debate. Try: Curse of Agony,Immolate,Conflag, Incin,Incin,Chaos Bolt. Keep Curse of Agony up to proc Molten Core. Let it tic off completely rather than clip it if you are going to be "late" refreshing it. If you can, try to time Conflag when immolate has 5 or less seconds left. With this build and the conflag glyph that can be tough sometimes.. but its good in practice. Have your imp out and make him attack so you get the empowered imp buff. You may try getting a bit more crit and haste. Add a belt buckle and a gem to your belt. See about getting a spellpower enchant to the weapon, and icewalker for your boots. There should be a good spell power or spirit enchant for your wrist as well. If you have any emblems, you could try to grab the shoulders or some other set pieces. I think rotation plus gear and enchants might help a little bit. After that, I think you might be stuck with me in server lag land. My problem seems to be server lag where I'll press a button to cast and nothing happens. It gets rather annoying. |
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March 13, 2009, 03:26 PM
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Sacraman 80 Undead Warlock Khadgar US PvE Guild: Off Topic Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 5/13/53 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
Thanks Absalom - so not worth going demo / hybrid eh? I'll look at the enchants - I don't want to spend on the crap bracers I have now, but for the rest I'll buff all up. Thanks for the recommendations on enchants and I'll add a buckle in there. I have Heroism emblems aplenty but only about ~25 valor ones. I think my shoulders (heroic Naxx drop) are better than, or close to, both tier shoulders, close enough anyway that I should spend my emblems elsewhere (but then... where?). |
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March 13, 2009, 03:52 PM
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Lavath 80 Blood Elf Warlock Shadow Council US RP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
honestly, the demo / hybrid build isn't bad. You likely end up with a similar rotation though maybe slightly less complicated when you take conflag and chaos bolt out of the picture and replace it with incin spam. It's not as strong dps-wise as deep destruction or deep affliction but the rotation is more forgiving, especially if you are in a high lag scenario. It's not bad, but it's not my thing. 41/30 and hybrid deravations tend to be pretty cookie cutter and mindless to me (that's read as "not challenging" and not meant to say I think people who play the spec are lazy or mindless as that is not at all what I would imply). Some people love it and that is just how some people want to play. It's not for me as I love deep destro. Destro is getting a pretty good boost in 3.1 so feel free to try stuff out now to get a feel for what you are more comfortable with and what feels right to you. Personally, I will have deep destro as my primary and a demo/hybrid as my secondary when 3.1 hits as I've been playing with both on PTR lately. Going back to deep destro a moment, Shadowfury + Rain of Fire is great fun on AoE pulls in Naxx. I get a moderatly good proc rate for Molten Core on Shadowfury which just makes the rain of fire to follow that much better. =) |
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March 21, 2009, 01:44 AM
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Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
Hey Absalom! I just tryed out the same talentspecc as you have and it is the best one so far for me. Great fun and high dps on bosses. I love Shadowfury to  Got one question now tho... Is the Suppression in affliction really needed to specc? Doesent that just give more hit ton only the Curse of Agony? I got around 370 hit atm and i think it is enough with all the talents put where they belong. Hope someone can answer this.
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March 21, 2009, 02:59 AM
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Lavath 80 Blood Elf Warlock Shadow Council US RP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
Glad to hear you found something you like. =) Honestly, it may not be. I don't have suppression and the only spell that I cast that would be affected would be Curse of Agony.. maybe Corruption too if you use it. That said, you are probably fine being 370 with cataclysm and not suppression, in my opinion. |
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March 21, 2009, 06:08 AM
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Belaide 80 Human Warlock Nagrand Oceania PvE Guild: Pinnacle Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/14/57 |
Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
I was destruction in The Burning Crusade & in fact I leveled all the way from 70 to 80 as destruction with the hope that I could learn my rotations & therefore be ready to raid as destro when I hit 80. Early in our raiding I was OK, but being beaten out by all the DK's, hunters & pally's. I had gone from being top 5 on the meter in The Burning Crusade to around 15 or 16 in Naxx 25. Pretty depressing. Even with gear upgrades, I found myself stuck at about 2.5k dps for the whole raid. After raiding for a bit some of our top dps were approaching 4k for the raid. The problem I had was crit. Destro locks need around 30% to really shine & I was way under that. I decided drastic action was required. In The Burning Crusade when you didn't have enough crit but you wanted to play destro you specced demo/destro hybrid for the crit. So I respecced to hybrid 41/30. I broke 3k dps on my first run and now I average out at 3.5k. On Patchwerk I break 4k dps. I'm teetering just out of top 5 again now. Aside from the pet management, 41/30 plays quite a lot like destro and I'm learning to love my Felguard. He's good for 1k dps on his own on Patchwerk. The spell rotation is a reduced version of the destro rotation. So if you're looking for a quick fix without going to affliction, 41/30 is a good option.
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March 21, 2009, 11:28 PM
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Re: Well geared Destruction with LOW dps. What am I missing
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And as i thought then. Ill check where to put my 3 free points then. I went from last on dps to make my soulshatter go off on CD now.
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