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April 28, 2009, 08:16 AM
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Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
Random uldar damage, Please Help, Character Name: Sharcol Armory Profile: The World of Warcraft Armory Wowhead link of current build in use: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft Wowhead link of proposed build: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft PvE Play style and Requirements of build: Raiding primarily PvP Play style and Requirements of build: PvE Additional Information: I'm a little confused here, and hoping someone might be able to give me some advice. I'm not 100% sure this is the right thread to put this into, but here goes... I went from doing good dps in Naxx 25 man, to doing lousy damage in Uldar (not counting the machines....) Same spec, roatations etc. Any ideas why this might be? Also any tips on my spec? My rotation is approximately corruption, immolate, incinerate (repeat as fits) chaos bolt, conflag, immolate, inncinerate etc then repeat. I tend to use RoF as my aoe damage, and run with imp out. Yet im still only pulling about 2.5k dps in uldar - and this isnt normal for me! Any help that can be given would be greatly appreciated! |
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April 28, 2009, 08:53 AM
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Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
My DPS is way down too. I just assumed it was because of all the movement that every fight in Ulduar requires. I think they must have balanced the classes more in 3.1. I used to always top the damage meters (with DK's). Now, mages, rogues, and druids can all dominate me. Maybe it depends on the fight? It's not just Ulduar either, we ran 20 man Naxx and I noticed the same thing. This was even with optimizing my spec for each fight. I use 0/41/30 on AoE trash and bosses like Razorscale, and 54/0/17 on bosses like Patchwerk. I thought that adding so much damage to my AoE with a backup spec was going to make me look insane on the damage meters, but I need to do it just to compete. |
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April 29, 2009, 03:05 AM
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Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
I guess I just got confused, I did H Naxx about a day before doing H Uldar. Got 3.5k+ dps on bosses in Naxx, 5k+ on trash... Then in Uldar I was struggling to get 2.5k.... Do mobs have resilance i wonder... I always thought it was only players but maybe? |
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April 29, 2009, 03:56 AM
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Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
Looked at your amory and what i see are 2 Flame Leviathan kills and 1 XT-002 kill, both in 10 man. I think that this has nothing to do with rotations and stuff like this but only with knowing the fights in ulduar. Knowing when and where you have to switch targets, knowing what will happen next. There are no Patchwerk-like fights in Ulduar where you just DPS one target for 3 minutes. Razorscale you have to deal with adds, switching targets a lot. XT you have to switch to adds. Iron Council you have 3 Mobs that you kill one after another, you have to run out or into runes, out of overload and all that. Kologarn you have to run away from the eye beam, Auriaya the kitty will stun you, you will be feared from time to time. All the bosses in Ulduar have some gimmicks to them. Knowing these gimmicks, how to react to them and making quick choices what to kill next is what will bring up your dps more than any gear-upgrade. At least this is my guess on the given data. |
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April 29, 2009, 04:48 AM
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Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
Thanks - I guess its nice to know I'm not the only one having trouble here. We also have 2x Flame Levitian down in 25.... its the ones after that hurt! LoL, it would be nice to have the kind of dps that you get in a machine normally.... Last edited by Sharcol; April 29, 2009 at 04:50 AM.. |
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April 29, 2009, 04:49 AM
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Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
I looked at your armory and it all looks alright but in all honesty that spec is not very good. The top dps spec as of right now is 41/30 (except aff with dg out). Rotation is immo, Curse of Agony, corr, inc spam until 35%. under 35% drop corr. Get to max range if you can, keep immo and Curse of Agony up, but go inc inc soulfire, followed by inc soulfire inc soulfire. Keep a 1-1 rotation of inc and soulfire w/e you can. I am usually in the top 5 dps in my ulduar groups 25 man and my guild is pretty good. We are 10/14 right now and hoping to get yogg down this week. Cleared 7 bosses tonight. Good luck in Ulduar man and have some fun.. i for one am enjoying every encounter so far even Mimiron (curse you mimiron!). The World of Warcraft Armory Theres a link to my armory if you want to check out my spec. |
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April 29, 2009, 05:15 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
You have to learn the fights. The encounters are not only harder than in Naxx, you also don't know them yet. Tanks don't know them yet. You will have to move due to bad positioning, bad positioning of your tank and finally due to nasty stuff on the ground. We had a nasty first week in Ulduar... effectively re-learning how to raid, downing only FL. Now we're back with all dps over 3k, on straightforward boss fights we have all over 4k. This week we downed one new boss each day, now we're 6/14 and hope to get to the interesting fights this week. You can't boost your dps on trash in Ulduar... there's only a few trash pulls and they are not simple AoE. Nice progress Vanamman btw 
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April 29, 2009, 05:29 AM
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Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
Thank you lilsteele . Congrats on your progression as well.
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April 29, 2009, 06:05 AM
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Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
Wow, grats on both of your progression! Thank you for your suggestions! |
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April 29, 2009, 06:17 AM
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Andrèas 80 Blood Elf Warlock Magtheridon US PvP Guild: Unity Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Random uldar damage, Please Help,.
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As for Sharcol, your deep destro build isnt optimal like somebody allready pointed out. You want 13 points in demo to get demonic aegis and then either 55 or 58 points in destro depending on wether you need supression or not. For a build with supression, something like this would do: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft If you dont need supression, you can get soul leech and imp soul leech which means you will keep up replenishment: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft |
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