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June 30, 2009, 12:44 AM
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Destined to be a trash lock?
Hello, well i can't post on the talent build part ... keeps coming up with smiley info... honestly who uses those anyways...  <---- (joke)Anyways i have a question.. right now i use the 0/13/58 spec .. ive seen so many good things about it and it is a very good single target dps spec... but in my guild it seems the casters are always on the adds  and its frustrating the melee kicks our bums in dps because im always having to stop turn around and kill some adds.. and on top of that the aoe damage from 0/13/58 is crap... i know what i can do as a single target dps because on good fights for casters i own but... 75% of the time im doing adds .. its how my guild works every single caster on the adds.. maybe im not handling it properly? i dont know.. i know i can do very decent single target dps as destro the thing is i spend more time on adds... any opinions? im thinking about just making my main spec 0/41/30 it feels like all im doing is adds anyways.The World of Warcraft Armory
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June 30, 2009, 02:09 AM
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Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
tbh, I have no idea what you're problem is. What fights are there in Ulduar where you would want casters purely on adds and melee purely on the boss/main target? Fights like Freya and Thorim have everyone on adds. If you are talking about clearing trash then it doesn't really matter how much dps you are doing as long as they go down. What fights are you walking about? |
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June 30, 2009, 02:37 AM
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Schizm 80 Undead Warlock Aman'Thul Oceania PvE Guild: Novitas Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
What's more important - getting a boss down or topping the meters? Good of the guild or e-peen stroke? At the end of the day, if the guild achieves what it sets out to do then that is all that counts. |
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June 30, 2009, 02:54 AM
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Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
S/He's not complaining about not topping meters, more wondering if 0/13/58 is worth it if all they do is kill adds. I don't really understand why or how you would only be killing adds but affliction or 0/41/30 would be your best bet if that is the case. |
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June 30, 2009, 04:03 AM
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Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
im not so much looking for a way to top the meters im always in the top 10 but i lose alott of dps im just trying to work somthing out ... like for xt all the casters on the adds melee stays on the boss for my guild me includingh every other caster loses alott of dps we run back and kill the adds then by that time its ready for the next heart then we run back again and lose dps while the melee is just going all out... and Hodir we are all on the adds again while melee is going all out we get all the adds out and go back on hodir then as soon as we are back on him we we have to move again so we dont get frozen .. thats how my guild is doing it... it seems a strain on the ranged dps... im not sure how other guilds are doing it... thats why im concidering an aoe spec for the way my guild does things those are just a few examples
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June 30, 2009, 05:46 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
Well, destro dps is also excellent on adds and single target trash. Only when it comes to AoE there's other somewhat more powerful specs. I can't imagine anything better than destro to shatter the frozen guys on hodir etc, and actually you don't loose too much dps on doing that if you are quick with targeting etc. On XT you should have enough range to not need to move a lot to AoE adds, depends where you tank him though. Thorim's arena is actually the only boss where you might want a different spec, but you can just try to go tunnel  I can't see the advantage of 41/30 on adds, except for a bit more AoE. Single target dps of deep destro is incredibly good, and it doesn't actually matter if you are hitting the boss or adds. |
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June 30, 2009, 06:50 AM
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Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
I usually fire a seed of corruption into a group of adds then rain of fire & repeat if their still alive. But, it sounds like doing more DPS isn't really the problem. You want in on the boss action instead of adds. Is the melee bragging about their DPS to the casters? |
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June 30, 2009, 07:07 AM
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Möpli 69 Gnome Warlock Tirion Euro PvE |
Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
My guild also has the casters switching targets when necessary rather than the melees, sinply because we don't have to run, we just target the next mob and start nuking. So we can get more and faster damage onto the secondary target, it's just much more efficient. I have no problem with switching targets, I put the boss as my focus-target and still put Curse of Doom on him even if I'm doing adds at the moment, it's only one gcd and it's worth it. For XT-002 we don't usually move to kill the adds, we stand at max-range and kill them as they get to us. For Hodir I have a target-macro for the flash freezes, so I immediatly target and nuke the one closest to me without having to find it first. For our first kill, the melees were also targeting the freezes, but then they begged the RL to let them stay on the boss and he allowed them to (until they have aggro-problems, then they have to switch). |
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June 30, 2009, 09:06 AM
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Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
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June 30, 2009, 09:53 AM
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Oldgraybeard 80 Orc Warlock malestrom US RP PvE Guild: Dark Chaos Profile: WoW Rankings |
Re: Destined to be a trash lock?
Any of your top DPS should stick on the boss anyways. You wouldent want them to break of to kill adds. Since you should have more then 3 casters i dont see how this can really be a problem. If your are Destro on a boss, i dont see how you cant be top 5 everytime, unless you are undergeard. You should be focusing on killing the heart anyway on XT. He is going to heal anyway. So let the adds get there. Down the heart and then you should just worry about killing sparks and dpsing the boss down. If you are doing a uldar shard run and are going for the quick kill then you should have a 1 warlock or Mage each take one side and as soon as they spawn do 2-3 SOC and a rain of fire (in front of them, not on them) and by the time they all go through they should be dead. All and all you should not be worrying about trash. Are you trying to Top Overall Damage or something? Any caster/,melee that says "i just beat you in damage on that trash mob" should be /gkicked anyways. Seriously what kind of statement is that? Any of your good players in your guild will know the diffrence. I'm not sure why would want to refresh your meter anyways to see who does the most damage on a trash mob. If you are not having trouble getting the mobs down. I really dont see the point. As far as adds during boss fights, some bosses melee does better then casters and on other bosses casters do better. That keeps it balanced. =) |
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