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February 22, 2010, 01:48 AM
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Arathoss 80 Human Warlock Lightbringer Euro PvE Guild: Foundation Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Tree: Destruction |
Re: Good gear. Bad DPS.
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Even if you are not raiding you shouldn't have it that high. You should be using the 4pieces Set 9 for the set bonus even if they are not as strong as your curent Head and Shoulder items.Don't touch Merlin's robe although you should regem it.In the Hood you put +10Hit and +15 to stam??.....Read a geming guide in here. Lose your suppression in both your specs and put minor speed Enchant on your Feet. You are using 2 Healer rings............Buy 1 from the Ventor with T9 badges and run randoms all day. The Sundial trinket from the Ventor is what you should have put from the moment you hit 80 instead the Darkmoon fair trinker. Its a shame to see a player that worked for his Robe and and Wrists and qear up so badly on half of the rest items.... Good luck.
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February 22, 2010, 02:43 AM
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Hellheimer 85 Goblin Warlock SkullCrusher US PvP Guild: Legion Talent Tree: Destruction |
Re: Good gear. Bad DPS.
I'm sure people create these threads to get feed back. Criticism is apart of it. But knocking someone who cant devote enough time to WoW to upgrade everything in a week (Like I did when I went from crap gear to T9 after grinding it out over 3 days) is annoying. Even if you're giving them the hard knocks truth there are ways to be gentle about it. Any way Destro locks suffer from improper gear scaling. The talents we need to spec into require us to focus on things other than SP and haste. With demonic aegis we need spirit, it is merely the inflexibility of the lock class. We can't afford to not spec into things like demonic aegis etc. Cata will hopefully address these issues allowing for warlocks to spec the way they want rather than HAVING to spec the same way all other locks do so that we don't suck in raids. Another issue is merely the whole FoTM mentality as well as our egos. "Aff makes me a better player and should have the highest dps because it is harder to play". "Destro is weak and needs to be buffed so it can compete with affliction" "Demonology has a stale play-style and needs to change" blah blah blah. All things I've read or thought myself at some point. IT is only recently that I have come to realize that Warlocks are not something everyone wants to play. Why play a lock when I can play an arcane mage and blow up the DPS meter. Let's get down to brass tacks. If we locks can't discuss and help each other out when we're asked how the hell are we going be able to be the best? We'll all be too worried about criticism and trolls when we ask a question. Yes I almost always have a soap box statement in my posts. |
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February 22, 2010, 05:50 AM
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Re: Good gear. Bad DPS.
I'm new to the site - and here's my problem exactly. On my way to building what I thought was good gear - but I keep getting complaints during dungeon runs that my dps is WAY low. Doing randoms for emblem farming. Guild does not yet raid - but I want to learn that - when geared better. My rotation is Immolate - Conflagrate - Chaos bolt - Seed of Corruption. When confronted with multiple mobs, I'll start with Shadowfury AoE, Curse of the Elements on individuals, then Rain of Fire Aoe, till the the group is down to one - or healer gets attacked. My character link is: Custom WoW Feed Thanks very much for your comments |
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February 22, 2010, 06:49 AM
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Eschatos 85 Gnome Warlock Moonglade Euro RP PvE Guild: Nightfall Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Tree: Affliction |
Re: Good gear. Bad DPS.
I dont get your rotation cwarre2001 single target: curse, immolate, conflag, chaos bolt, incinerate as filler multiple targets: RoF shadowfury should not be included in any rotation whatsoever, its a special situation spell, like a mob aggroed on you or the healer so you stun it for the tank to pick it up. SoC is also irrelevant to destro spec i cant open the link you posted btw, can you edit it and put the right address?
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February 22, 2010, 06:57 AM
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Zababa 80 Human Warlock The Sha'tar Euro RP PvE Guild: Northern Alliance Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: Good gear. Bad DPS.
There are other things than gear that make your DPS good or bad(and more important than gear): 1) Are you using max ranks of spells? - If you were leveling with dual spec, the answer to this question might be "no" 2) Are you doing the right rotation? - for example simcraft assumes using potion of wild magic during bloodlust and using your trinkets on CD 3) Are you getting all buffs/debuffs you should have? - maybe in 25 man, most likely not anywhere else 4) Are you chaining your spells perfectly or is there 0.2 second delay between your spells? - If you want to do good dps, you must learn to spam buttons to minimalise latency and reaction time error (YouTube - How To Do Top DPS in WoW) It makes me sad to see so many people with sub-par results say: "My dps is not good, I guess I need better gear". Well when you see someone with way worse gear than you have doing supreme DPS, you will understand that gear is not all. To: cwarre2001: Just looking at your spec shows that you haven't put much effort into optimising your character for doing DPS. I think it would be best if you spent some time reading various threads on this site and watch some educational vids. |
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February 22, 2010, 07:32 AM
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Jenerena 80 Blood Elf Warlock Executus Euro PvP Guild: Deliverance Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: Good gear. Bad DPS.
Not only the gear/gemming that has already been covered, but also, the OP still has some Naxx gear which is most likely holding him/her back. By no means am i saying 'your gear is rubbish get more'. I appreciate some people don't always have the time to farm for more gear. But unfortunately if you want alot of dps you will have to work for it. If that means taking an hour out of your day to do one of the new heroics then so be it. If you can find the time to raid regularly (which you obviously do, otherwise it wouldn't matter), then you can find the time to prepare for it. I do think with the gemming/enchanting changes you should hit 5k no problem, and above, but you also have to pay alot of attention to how you play as well. The best advice i can give for actually playing your warlock to the best of its abilities is to be comfortable with what you are doing and why. Don't get narrow minded about dps numbers. I try to close recount on alot of fights so i can relax, understand what is going on, and adjust to certain mechanics. It's all about feeling comfortable with your classes capabilities and not getting hung up about dps. Realise what the boss fight requires of you, and use every tool in the book to fulfil that requirement, then think about shedding some damage out. As a demo lock my job is to keep that pet alive and critting, nuking adds down where necessary, timing my cooldowns correctly, and providing a nice all round source of damage whilst also providing extra dps for everyone else. As a destro lock your job is to provide a nice on demand burst damage which will help on add fights (which there are alot of in ICC) as well as maintaining solid damage on the boss. As affliction, your job is sustained damage, and pressure on multiple targets. Ps. To the OP, don't be cheap on enchants. Get 81 sp on staff, and gem it up with +23 spell power gems (epic) Quote:
As affliction/destro you don't really have that many cooldowns to track particularly. but as demo, timing trinkets with meta (especially if they share the same cooldown) and saving meta for certain phases is very important. Last edited by Jenren22; February 22, 2010 at 07:15 AM.. |
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February 22, 2010, 08:58 AM
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Re: Good gear. Bad DPS.
I am new to warlocks den. Heard about it and it looks interesting. Been a lock since I started playing in classic 4 years ago. I just wanted to say when people say spell. Penetration is worthless in pve they don't know what they are talking about. For fights that have high resistance to fire spells for instance Rag, Ony, korolan spell pen will up your dps. I consistently run 7-8k in both specs and fights don't change it cause I gear differently for the encounter at hand |
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February 22, 2010, 09:18 AM
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Eschatos 85 Gnome Warlock Moonglade Euro RP PvE Guild: Nightfall Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Tree: Affliction |
Re: Good gear. Bad DPS.
forget vanilla and The Burning Crusade days. in Wrath of the Lich King spell resistance on bosses cannot be overcome by any means. they dont have much either, like 2%, like 15 resistance? Curse of Elements provides much more than that, but I think it's useless. only the 13% increased spell damage is valuable in pve.
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February 22, 2010, 09:47 AM
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Curzalok 85 Undead Warlock Cho'gall US PvP Guild: Chain Reaction Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Tree: Affliction |
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February 22, 2010, 10:14 AM
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Evictoray 80 Undead Warlock US PvP |
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