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February 26, 2007, 09:15 AM
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3 affliction heavy builds
Hey all, I would like some input on what build to choose. Right now im into heavy affliction with this 48/13/0 build. I love affliction, but i've been thinking about tweaking my build slightly to either: 1) 45/5/11 for quicker shadowbolts and shadowburn. The downside is about 230hp less from bloodpact, no imp HS, plus losing the extra 6% lifegain and 30dmg from fel armor. Damage output on single targets should be better though. 2) 44/17/0 Dropping imp Curse of Agony and some suppression in favor of master summoner. The benefits are not only fel domination, but the ability to drain the imps mana with dark pact and recast it with less manacost and only 6s casting time. I like the fact that I can switch pets quick if needed too, but most of the time I just use imp for his blood pact and superior mana regen. So, which build should I choose? Right now im leaning toward either staying or switching to the 45/5/11 build. Im playing on a pvp server, but all three builds have benefits in pvp. My aim is mostly set on world pvp and 5-man instances for the time being. /Tahl |
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February 27, 2007, 03:20 AM
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Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
Well, no replies here yet, but I ended up with the 45/5/11 build. Looking good so far, but I need to learn to use shadowburn more often. 
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February 27, 2007, 04:45 AM
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Duckie 70 Undead Warlock Stormrage Euro PvE Guild: Elitism Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/31/40 |
Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
What is the purpose of your build? PvE grinding? Raiding? PvP ? Check my build too if you consider raiding, sofar I love it |
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February 27, 2007, 04:46 AM
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Zaun 70 Undead Warlock Bloodfeather Euro PvP Guild: Fangs of Fenris Talent Spec: 46/15/0 |
Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
Got simular build as you had before you respec and loving it. As you, have I been thinking of respec. But afraid I will just jump back to my initial spec. Please give some feed back after you played some.. Cheers, Zaun |
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February 27, 2007, 05:19 AM
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Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
If you're looking to maximize DoT damage for PvE (drain tanking with VW) and Raiding (imp as mana battery), the following Heavy Affliction build is good. (currently what I'm using) http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?35022225122311055120123500300030000000000000000000 00000000000000 You can swap out the points for Supression, Shadow Embrace, Imp. HoT, Nightfall, Grim Reach and Malediction anyway you want depending on your play style. Basic line is: - You have 5 DoTs - You have all DoT enhancing talents - You have great mana recovery (Imp. Life Tap, Dark Pact) - You have great health recovery (Siphon Life, Imp. Drain Life, Demonic Aegis) - You have a great mana battery (Imp. Imp and Fel Intellect) - You have great +damage (Affliction damage talents and Demonic Aegis) - You have an additional +10% aggro reduction to Afflictin DoTs. (Imp. Drain Soul plus whatever other buffs you get in raids) Seems to be working great for me. My PvE single pulls are cake. My damage is phenominal during 5 mans. My best DPS of constant DoTing has been 524.3. (against Dementius) I have yet to raid with this build, but I think it has potential. I may respec to try a new idea... (haven't seen anyone post my potential build yet, as it concerns new talents and is gear heavy) But I'm sure I'll come back to this build because I like it so much. Last edited by kidzero7; February 27, 2007 at 05:21 AM.. |
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February 27, 2007, 06:54 AM
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Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
Thanks for the input. It's a tricky choice. On my old build, I had more health/healing plus a bit more +damage, on the new one I have more burstdamage potential. Quote:
).I haven't been able to test my new build fully yet, but so far it worked great in BG and performs nicely in solo PvE too. For pure solo PvE my old build was about the same, perhaps a bit more manaefficient but this one let me finish mobs quicker if I want to. I need to adapt my playstyle a bit to make full use of it in pvp though. Something I want to try out in PvP is DC->Sbolt->SBurn combo after I have applied all dots and gotten them low on life. That should remove about 3k life in three seconds, even with my limited gear. |
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February 27, 2007, 08:11 AM
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Duckie 70 Undead Warlock Stormrage Euro PvE Guild: Elitism Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/31/40 |
Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
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Improved Curse of Agony is nice and the second point in Howl of Terror too, but if you REALY need Howl of Terror that 0.8 seconds makes such a difference you will not survive anyway imo ;) I used the points for Malediction instead. The biggest benefit is I get a lot of invites for groups because you are max supportive towards the raid and you do bring nice dps too. Kidzero : your link is broken Quote:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AA0RVMfkVpoZ0LZxx0tr0z I tried to make a compromise between mana efficienty, dots and burst damage. I guess this will give you more burst, keep 80% of demonic embrase, makes you lose UA, improved drainsoul and curse of exhaustion. It gains ruin and crit. What you think ? Last edited by Duckie; February 27, 2007 at 08:26 AM.. |
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February 27, 2007, 09:02 AM
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Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
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pvp: * No instant howl of terror. I disagree with you when you say that the 0.7s casting time is enough since this leaves room for interrupts from melee and not being able to cast this while running. * No UA. Which means nothing that will stop paladins/priests from removing my dots. Also, the damage from UA is nice, and it help drain life with another 5%. * No CoEx. pve: * No imp. drain soul. No extra 15% mana after killing solo, and no threat reduction in groups from my dots. * Same here with no UA (for damage and drain life), and lacking CoEx that I find useful quite often. The added range on nukes are good, but usually I can adjust the distance while dotting. Also my main aggro in PvE comes from dots, not nukes. Thanks for the input though. It's always nice to see other peoples opinions and ideas.
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February 27, 2007, 09:21 AM
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Duckie 70 Undead Warlock Stormrage Euro PvE Guild: Elitism Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/31/40 |
Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
Well I didn't choose that spec of about the same reasons. I don't play on a pvp server, so I don't get attacked if I'm grinding. 1 talent howl of terror works fine for me when I'm playing PvP, because when you stop and press you will have about instant howl of terror. The reason why I think 1 talent is enough is because if you get jumped by 2 stealthed targets (assuming you would not miss a visible enemy) they will stunnlock you to death anyway and even instant fear will not save you. Thb I never used CoEX and I never missed it (not in PvE of PvP) I use fear or deathcoil to interrupt and disorient my opponents, I always make sure to have my surroundings cleared so I can use fear freely, mostly I do that because I grind this way, because I can take multiple mobs at the same time that way without getting hit ;) But I think we agree on about 99% ;) |
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February 27, 2007, 09:49 AM
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Deaded 70 Undead Warlock Baelgun US PvE Guild: Infamous Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 40/21/0 |
Re: 3 affliction heavy builds
Tahl, You and i have a very similar build with one major and one minor exception. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IiMMiRfzqtbo0xhZxx0z I put (3) points in Imp Void and did NOT put them into Imp Life Tap (2) and Shadow Embrace (1). I have read enough convincing argument not to put points into LT. Basically, you can already LT so all your gaining is extra mana, but then that’s why you have dark pact. True, you don’t have to LT or DP as much if you have imp LT, but IMO it is 2 points better served else where. I really debated on SE as any damage reduction is good, but i decided to go for Imp Void for the just incase i need a tank-offtank scenarios. Have you found situation where you wanted a stronger tank to justify a Imp Void? Was thinking about respeccing to Imp Imp for STA and Mana pool.
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