The Warlocks Den - WoW Warlock Discussions
Member Login
The Warlocks Den - WoW Warlock Discussions
| Spells, Talents, Pets and DPS Discussion DoT's and Curses and Nukes, oh my! Discussion threads on everything relating to the Warlocks Spells, Talents, Pets and DPS. |
 |
February 24, 2007, 02:58 PM
|
#11 (permalink) |
|
|
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
Kind of sad that a Tier 8 talent might do the same thing as a Tier 3 talent in destruction (devastation) |
|
|
| Recommended Guide |
|
|
February 24, 2007, 03:05 PM
|
#12 (permalink) |
|
|
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
It's kind of sad that with 0/40/21 you have 10% crit (which is when going heavy demonology). When going heavy destruction you only can have max 8% crit (devastation + backlash). I'm only saying about this because it was always destruction that was the damage/crit tree. Now I have the feeling that some trees have lost their specific identity.
__________________
Fear 'em all. |
|
|
|
|
February 24, 2007, 03:53 PM
|
#13 (permalink) |
|
|
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
I agree. Since the new talents I have thought of Affliction as the dot tree, Demonology for straight dps, and Destruction for high crits. But yes, they seem to be mixing things up, the new Demonic Tactics seem like it should be in the Destruction tree. |
|
|
|
|
February 24, 2007, 06:59 PM
|
#14 (permalink) |
|
|
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
You know, I like the new trees very much (in patch 2.0 they really added great stuff and all), but the trees are not as specific as they were some time ago. Before, it was something like: Affliction - DoT tree / leveling. Demonology - survivability / defense. Destruction - burst damage / pvp king. Although Affliction and Destruction are almost the same in their purpose and character, Demonology has been modernised to a tree that can't be defined with 2-3 words. I don't know, what the devs have in mind, but the fact is that they seriously mixed things recently. And adding 5% crit to the Demonology tree is another proof of that. Just some thoughts. ;]
__________________
Fear 'em all. |
|
|
|
|
February 26, 2007, 07:48 AM
|
#15 (permalink) |
|
Character Info
Kaymorolis 80 Undead Warlock Exodar US PvE Guild: Mediocrity Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
what do you all think about going 5/41/15? |
|
|
|
|
February 26, 2007, 10:34 AM
|
#16 (permalink) |
|
|
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
Doesn't bother me if they give us a free respec. I'm only demo till 70, so I'll cope. 5% isn't so much. What really bugs me is that since The Burning Crusade they have nerfed both the 31 and 41 point demo talents and played with dot damage, but no repsec. If they nerf the 40 point as well with no respec I'm going to be particularly miffed. So go ahead and change it, just give me a free spec out to go back to affliction.
__________________
The church says the earth is flat, but I know it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon and I have more faith in a shadow then in the church. - Ferdinand Magellan |
|
|
|
|
February 26, 2007, 11:01 AM
|
#17 (permalink) |
|
|
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
Destruction still is the pvp king, but they are no longer the only spec capable of monster crits. Im 0/40/21 now while my crits and damage may be off the chart lets not forget all of the amazing instant cast and utility spells and abilities that destro locks get. Nether protection, conflag, shadowfury, and lets not forget the insta casts from backlash. I have no instant nukes besides shadowburn. Now what i have that destro locks dont is a ton of hitpoints, spell damage, and now crit. IMO its an even trade off and destro locks are still far superior in pvp. A string of insta cast crits can really take most toons down a few notches if not to the point of death.f Oh and lets not forget that the highest dps build used to be sm/ruin not straight destruction. Last edited by Lavicus; February 26, 2007 at 11:05 AM.. |
|
|
|
|
February 26, 2007, 01:39 PM
|
#18 (permalink) |
Status: NOT IN THE FACE!!!!
|
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
I may be one of the few that's excited about the switch; 0/40/21 is going to be a devestating build. Something like this, for example, gives you a base crit rate of 17% for Searing Pain, and base 10% crit for immolate/SB/Sburn/Incinerate. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AZbxczIizzxsxxx0tMbz -Gritz |
|
|
|
|
February 27, 2007, 07:47 AM
|
#19 (permalink) | |
|
Character Info
Idhyaa 85 Undead Warlock Proudmoore US PvE Guild: The Spreading Taint Talent Tree: Destruction |
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
February 27, 2007, 08:40 AM
|
#20 (permalink) | ||
|
|
Re: upcoming patch and demonic tactics
Quote:
if you have 500 +damage, 5% damage is 25 +damage on average extra in 100% of all your damage abilities if you have 500 +damage, 5% crit is 25 +damage on average extra in the 20% (if you critrate is 20%) of your direct (critable) damage abilities. So bascily you lose 100% damage increase on all not critable abilities and lose about 80% (if you critrate is 20%) extra damage on the critable abilities. If you look at the talents spend, this talent is about 80% gimped, made 100% useless for affiction demonologist locks and for the destro demo locks it's still gimped bigtime. I think your better off using 0/21/40 build from now on with shadow and flame if you destro/ demo because the damage bonus will be bigger Quote:
Last edited by Duckie; February 27, 2007 at 08:44 AM.. |
||
|
|
|
|
| Bookmarks |
| Tags |
| +Dmg, 2010, 5/5, Damage, demonic, Demonic Tactics, Demonology, Felguard, patch, rate, saccing, spell, Spell Damage, tactics, thoughts, upcoming, warlocks |
| Thread Tools | |
|
|
