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Old November 16, 2007, 12:40 PM   #1 (permalink)

Destro or Aff ?

Ok here is my armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?...searchType=all

Now I've been affliction for some time now and it has always been really great dps usually # 1 or #2 on the dps charts. Recently since I've been doing TK and SSC I have not been able to get higher then #5. Is it time to swith to the 00/21/40 build? Is my gear good enough for ?
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Old November 16, 2007, 12:48 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Malevevely
70 Undead Warlock
KJ US PvP

Re: Destro or Aff ?

You need to be hit capped 202 even with affliction this will help with your dps due to shadowbolts, not to mention the fact that soulshatter isn't a affliction spell and is not effected by suppression. You still have a ways to go before using a 0/21/40 spec i would say 202 hit 15% (untalented) crit and 1k +damage.
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Old November 16, 2007, 03:41 PM   #3 (permalink)

Re: Destro or Aff ?

Quick answer: No. You could try a Destro build, SSC and Tk are better for Affl . If you are having problems in Dps... try and figure out a better rotation with your taps and shadow bolts.

A dest. build is based almost entierly on +Hit and +Crit. Pick up your T5 and a few +Hit rating rings (CE ring is very nice) and the Belt of blasting and you should be solid.
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Old November 16, 2007, 08:11 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Cartumandua
70 Human Warlock
Proudmoore US PvE
Guild: Champions of Stonewall
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Destro or Aff ?

I had a similar spec until last week.

Affliction isn't going to top the total damage meter charts on zones with much trash. Your dps on sustained fights is higher, but you lose out on trash mobs. Check you wws stats at the individual boss level. I was usually #5 on the overall damage charts, but #1 on the bosses themselves.

Watch your dot rotations. Every dot does more dps than the shadowbolt, so refresh them whenever they go down.

If you can hit 202 spell hit, it will also help, because even with a full dot rotation, shadowbolt is about half your casts, and misses on them hurts.

I wouldn't even think of destruction until you hit the spell hit cap.
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Old November 16, 2007, 10:42 PM   #5 (permalink)

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70 Gnome Warlock
Gilneas US PvE

Re: Destro or Aff ?

You're never going to 'win' in dps charts in SSC/TK simply because of all the trash fights.
If you're warlocking right though, you should always be top dps on the boss fights - the part that really matters.
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Old November 17, 2007, 02:27 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Xaos
70 Undead Warlock
Defias Brotherhood Euro RP PvP
Guild: Last Stand
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Destro or Aff ?

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Originally Posted by Malevevely View Post
You need to be hit capped 202 even with affliction this will help with your dps due to shadowbolts, not to mention the fact that soulshatter isn't a affliction spell and is not effected by suppression. You still have a ways to go before using a 0/21/40 spec i would say 202 hit 15% (untalented) crit and 1k +damage.
was going to say something, but the above poster covered exactly what i was thinking.
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Old November 17, 2007, 09:22 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Remegorn
80 Human Warlock
Bonechewer US PvP
Guild: Fae af Dreki
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/41/30
Re: Destro or Aff ?

I went with destro when I only had 170 hit at the time, just for 25 man content. The reason was that my dps went up, as I was no longer needing to refresh every dot I had, and I could actually cast a shadow bolt. As my hit rating improved so did my DPS.

But if you only have the max ability of getting 95 hit rating, I would still stick with affliction. Affliction is more beneficial to the raid, as Destro makes you just a DPS machine...
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Old November 18, 2007, 06:31 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Fiera
70 Human Warlock
Silvermoon Euro PvE
Guild: New Dawn
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Destro or Aff ?

Stay affliction till you reach 202 hit rating if you want to respec destruction. Now on instances with much trash usually we are "losing" in damage meters since the mobs are dying in a 20-30 seconds and other dps classes like rogues,hunters are faster than us. When I respec back to destruction having enough hit rating, my damage went up even to trash mobs since I rarely had resists on my spells plus my crits.
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Old November 18, 2007, 07:58 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Duckie
70 Undead Warlock
Stormrage Euro PvE
Guild: Elitism
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/31/40
Re: Destro or Aff ?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ion&n=Luccadeo

The answer is a BIG no, you lack about everything a destro builds needs.
get t5, hit and crit. But you also need a health and mana pool that is much bigger
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