| Spells, Talents and DPS Discussion DoT's and Curses and Nukes, oh my! Discussion threads on everything relating to the Warlocks Spells, Talents and DPS. |
 |
August 14, 2008, 12:33 PM
|
#1 (permalink) |
|
Character Info
Phearcat 70 Human Warlock Crushridge US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 6/45/10 |
Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
I am currently running demon spec 6/45/10. I'm also very active doing arena, heroics and mostly raids. Having Felguard is awesome for arena, heroics, trash and certain bosses, also like using my felpup for the fire resist on certain spots, vw and also imp. There are bosses however where crowd control isn't an issue and you just need to lay out the maximum dps period. For those occasions I just sac my pet, then cast curse of elements on the boss and start nuking away. Seems to work good too, Often #1 or #2 on the charts in many boss fights. So many people bug me to respec to destro 0/21/44 but I don't want to give up my felguard option and I don't want to respec daily either. Without my pet out with DK my overall displayed spell damage goes down when my pet is sacked. But this does seems to work. Just wondering if there some other demon spec locks who also sac their pet as neeed and if its a viable strategy. |
|
|
| Sponsored Links |
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 12:43 PM
|
#2 (permalink) |
Character Info
Snacker 70 Gnome Warlock Zirkel des Cenarius Euro RP Guild: Heavens Fall Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 27/34/0 |
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
I wouldn't care about respeccing at all if you are constantly #1 and/or #2 in dps charts., because: there is no reason to respecc. I can't get your armory profile (link doesn't work for me) but I would not change if a)not necessary (in spite of dps) and b)you like playing your felguard. |
|
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 12:48 PM
|
#3 (permalink) |
|
|
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
Playing with your Felguard is max DPS for Felguard spec. There is some thread about FG raiding if you like more details. I sometimes did Imp for laziness with undergeared people so I had the -20% threat. Pet saccing is quite overpowered right now. A common suggestion is: Rare/T4 Level Items: Affliction Spec T5/Epic Crafted Items: Felguard Spec *or* 0/21/40. T6/Sunwell: 0/21/40 I can't open your armory link btw to check for that. Respeccing isn't as bad if you have a fixing schedule for Raiding and PvP. 100G/week is nothing these days given it's 7 or 8 daily quests per week. |
|
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 02:53 PM
|
#4 (permalink) |
|
Character Info
Phearcat 70 Human Warlock Crushridge US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 6/45/10 |
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
I have fixed my armory link. Please take a look and let know what you think. |
|
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 03:11 PM
|
#5 (permalink) |
|
Character Info
Crocus 70 Gnome Warlock Garona US PvE Guild: Prismatic Order Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 7/43/11 |
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
When I was demo, I would usually keep the Felguard out just for the amount of dps he dishes out. There were a couple situations or instances that I would sac him..or the succubus, though. Plus I'm slightly lazy and micromanaging my pet was a little too much work for me if I just wanted to zone out. Instances where mobs can get skipped fairly easily can result in some tight fights (in terms of space). I would find that my FG would pull other groups too often. The obvious solution was to not send him in, but it seemed to happen often enough in the same instance that I usually just sac'd him or the succubus so i wouldn't have worry about keeping my eye on him. Some boss fights with AOE effects, nasty cleaves, etc can take a little more thought that I'd like to put into things if I were to keep my FG out and active; Murmur in H-Slabs comes to mind. Others probably don't have a problem with the FG in that situation, but I just ended up sac'ing the pet for a buff and not worrying about it.
__________________
"I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird, and not enough the bad luck of the early worm." |
|
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 03:43 PM
|
#6 (permalink) |
|
Character Info
Citamotua 80 Blood Elf Warlock Scarlet Crusade US RP PvE Guild: Timberline Dark Horse Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30 |
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
Sure in some situations, but the whole point of being demo is to have your pet out yes? :D |
|
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 10:38 PM
|
#7 (permalink) |
|
Character Info
Malevevely 70 Undead Warlock KJ US PvP |
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
@ Citamotua - Yes this. If you can't keep your pet alive it is acceptable to sac but it should be your last option as a living pet gives you a lot more then a sacced one through demo talents. |
|
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 10:48 PM
|
#8 (permalink) |
|
|
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
If I have to put out a LOT of AOE damage I will sac the Felguard in order to get the spell damage and mana regen bonus. There are fights where the pets are in general, usless, except to have the imp out for blood pact. In those cases sac 'em. The Maiden in Kara comes to mind with this one. Don't get stuck with a single stratagy, be prepared to do what will work. As a Demo lock you have a lot of flexability in talents and skills, use them. |
|
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 10:54 PM
|
#9 (permalink) |
|
Character Info
Malevevely 70 Undead Warlock KJ US PvP |
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
Maiden isn't particularly difficult to keep a pet up in due to Shadowpriests and shaman healers but there are some later game fights where it is nearly impossible to keep your pet up. Saccing is something that should only be a last resort as a demo lock micro managing will get you more dps in the long run. Even on aoe pulls the felguard's cleave is a mean addition especially along with the bonus damage etc from having a pet alive. |
|
|
|
|
August 14, 2008, 10:55 PM
|
#10 (permalink) |
|
Character Info
Thrale 70 Undead Warlock Blackrock US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40 |
Re: Saccing the Succubus as a demon lock?
I used to think like you did. However the advantages of 0/21/40 to a raiding guild are more then FG can offer. The micro management required to keep the pet alive is ridiculous, the margin for error and recovery is low. I loved the FG raid build, but can see why everyone says respec... Think of it from an optimisation perspective (FG is only effective in a limited number of boss encounters). You are #1/2 where you can keep your pet alive, I am sure that you would be < then 1st place (that is what I experienced) when your pet dies. Why not be #1 in "all" boss fights (or 99% at least)? Or do you respec based on how pet unfriendly the boss is (the cost of that would be higher then a once a week)? Perhaps, try raiding with 21/40 for a few weeks and see how you go. You will find it alot easier, provides consistent contribution to the raid (from boss to boss) and gives you extra time to focus on the environment/boss. You will probably still be #1/2 in damage. |
|
|
|
|
| Bookmarks |
| Tags |
| demon, lock, saccing, Succubus |
| Thread Tools | |
|
|
