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Old November 06, 2008, 01:05 AM   #1 (permalink)

Improved Shadow Bolt

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Improved Shadow Bolt". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Improved Shadow Bolt. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


Talent information:
Talent Tree: Demonology, Tier 1
Requires: Minimum level 10...
Your Shadow Bolt critical strikes increase Shadow damage dealt

Ranks:
Rank 1: Your Shadow Bolt critical strikes increase Shadow damage dealt by 2% until 4 non-periodic damage sources are applied. Effect lasts a maximum of 12 sec.

Rank 2: Your Shadow Bolt critical strikes increase Shadow damage dealt by 4% until 4 non-periodic damage sources are applied. Effect lasts a maximum of 12 sec.

Rank 3: Your Shadow Bolt critical strikes increase Shadow damage dealt by 6% until 4 non-periodic damage sources are applied. Effect lasts a maximum of 12 sec.

Rank 4: Your Shadow Bolt critical strikes increase Shadow damage dealt by 8% until 4 non-periodic damage sources are applied. Effect lasts a maximum of 12 sec.

Rank 5: Your Shadow Bolt critical strikes increase Shadow damage dealt by 10% until 4 non-periodic damage sources are applied. Effect lasts a maximum of 12 sec.
Further Explanation:
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Talent while Levelling:
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Talent in 5 Man Instances:
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Old November 24, 2008, 03:09 PM   #2 (permalink)

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tŕst
80 Undead Warlock
Kel'thuzad US PvP
Guild: Optimus Prime
Profile: Blizzard Armory
ISB and DOTS

In Wrath of the Lich King, does ISB increase the damage of dots?

I have read it and it looks like it does. I have read some various posts on different forums that say it only affects direct damage. Just want to make sure I have a correct understanding.
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Old November 24, 2008, 03:29 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Ngatayou
85 Gnome Warlock
Khadgar US PvE
Guild: Little Rascals
Talent Tree: Destruction
Re: ISB and DOTS

It doesn't.

It affects Shadowfury, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Burn, Death Coil and the initial hit of Shadow Flame.

No other spells receive the benefit of this debuff.

The buff for damage for periodic spells is Shadow Embrace.
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Old April 20, 2009, 12:47 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Agonee
70 Gnome Warlock
Thorium Brotherhood US RP PvE
3.1 Re: Improved Shadow Bolt

Here's the latest in 3.1 -

Improved Shadow Bolt Rank 5
Increases the damage done by your Shadow Bolt spell by 5%, and your Shadow Bolt causes your target to be vulnerable to spell damage, increasing spell critical strike chance against that target by 5%. Effect lasts 30 sec.

Part 1 - easy to read and understand, although one could be unsure as to whether the +5% SB damage modifier happens all the time, or only while the SB vunerability/30sec debuff is applied. A nuance to check on.

Part 2 - this needs some testing from an Affliction build perspective, unless someone knows the answer and can chime in - this 5% spell critical strike chance, does this also help Pandemic for Corruption/UA crit chance?

While there is no longer the 'only applies to non-periodic damage', you have to wonder if they really got Pandemic to grab Crit from all sources.

thoughts?
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Old April 22, 2009, 05:24 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Hazical
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Tortheldrin US PvP
Guild: Predestined
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Re: Improved Shadow Bolt

It helps your crit rate on Corruption and UA. All of the raid crit buffs help your dots. It's the reason that my Corruption and UA have a 40% or greater crit rate while my character sheet crit rate is only 19%
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Old May 28, 2009, 11:09 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Blubber
80 Gnome Warlock
Khaz Modan US PvE
Guild: The Angrydome
3.1 Re: Improved Shadow Bolt

Just to confirm, ISB is still only beneficial to the lock casting it correct?

(In other words, mages wont benefit from it?)

I ask, b/c I know it got changed to a self buff (vs raid debuff) awhile back, But a mage is telling otherwise. I am 90% sure he is going off of BC info, just wanted to maek sure.
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Old May 28, 2009, 11:31 AM   #7 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE
Re: Improved Shadow Bolt

its a raid buff now blubber.
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Old May 28, 2009, 03:08 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Blubber
80 Gnome Warlock
Khaz Modan US PvE
Guild: The Angrydome
3.1 Re: Improved Shadow Bolt

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilsteele View Post
its a raid buff now blubber.
Lol, dont I feel like a idiot now. Good to know better late than never!

thanks for the reply.
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Old June 09, 2009, 02:51 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Raenset
50 Human Warlock
Wyrmrest Accord US RP Guild: Ashen Onslaught
3.1 Re: Improved Shadow Bolt

I think the talent is great, at least if I'm understanding it correctly. In fact, it's the primary reason that I start my spell rotations with SB. +5% crit rate on everything I cast? And everything that anybody ELSE casts? A destro build is, as far as I've seen, very crit-centered, at least in low-mid levels (I'm only level 32 on this destro lock).

Now that I think about it I wonder, and I'm not at my WoW computer to check, but the way that the tooltip is worded makes me think that it is a debuff applied to the target, so that anyone casting spells at the target would gain the bonus, even random passersby not in your party. Is that true or am I misinterpreting it?
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Old August 26, 2009, 01:09 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Xachary
80 Undead Warlock
Arathor US PvE
Guild: Anguish
Profile: Blizzard Armory
3.2 Re: Improved Shadow Bolt

Quick question: I respecced to include ISB (00-13-58), only I seem to be unable to find evidence of the 5% Crit increase ANYWHERE!
FYI: My current rotation is LT>IMMOL>(CORR)>CONFLAG>CB>SB>INC (x2 or so)...
I have watched the current UI, have added(*) add-ons like Dr.Damage and Proclulas, have perused over the recount logs and have run numerous dummy-tests and real raiding to see if the effect is indeed proccing, but no luck!
Can anyone refer me to where that info. might be located? Or perhaps validate that, indeed, the effect is active? Thanks to all!

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