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November 24, 2008, 03:25 PM
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Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
While leveling, I found myself putting on the occasional Curse of Agony on a mob as a dot to help bring him down. When I found out that there was a glyph that increased my Siphon Life by 20%, I figured it might be a bit more helpful. After equipping the glyph, I realized that my Siphon Life ticks are about as potent as the final few ticks of Curse of Agony. So It might be a good idea to replace Curse of Agony in your single-target rotations with SL instead. You'll be doing close to the same damage, but you'll be receiving health all the while. Of course, many situations will call for both spells to be put on at once. But when it comes down to mob that you know will be downed quickly, you already have a corruption up, and you want another dot before you begin Shadow Bolt spam, I think you'd be best choosing Siphon Life. This also allows you to freely use another curse to help you out- I personally prefer starting with sending my pet out, then casting UA, Corruption, Haunt, SL, then Curse of Exhaustion and Life Tap as you run away. You'll end out with full health and mana and can get to your next target before your last one comes back. Last edited by Jaykzo; November 24, 2008 at 03:28 PM.. |
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November 24, 2008, 03:52 PM
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Re: Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
Any reason you weren't using Curse of Agony anyways? I throw as many Damage dealing "Insta" casts as I can because the more you have ticking away the more often you get a chance at a Nighfall PROC. I usually do Curse of Agony/SL/Corruption/Drain Life. And throw a Shadowbolt out whenever Nightfall PROC's. |
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November 24, 2008, 03:59 PM
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Tianshaan 80 Human Warlock Terokkar US PvE Guild: Vae Victus Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
I am Demo spec and on trash mobs while questing or instances, I don't have time for anything but Corr and Immo and my Incin spam. SL and Curse of Agony both never finish before the mobs die. The only case this isnt true for me is when I was still leveling and was SL/Felguard spec - then i would dot up everything with the 3 instants, gather, then spray Shadowflame and wait for 8 mobs to die. Incindentally, I have the Felguard and Immolate Glyphs. |
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November 24, 2008, 04:23 PM
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Re: Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
I always try to have both on. Having more DoTs on a mob helps out Drain Life. I usuall do this: Haunt > Siphon Life > UA > Corruption > Curse of Agony >>> Run to the next mob >>> Siphon Life > Corruption > Curse of Agony >>> Run to the next mob >>> Haunt > Siphon Life > UA > Corruption > Curse of Agony.... rinse and repeat. Basically constant chain pulling throwing in Drain Life, and throwing in Seed as needed. I usually Life Tap before each pull and Dark Pact as needed. I do this for 6-8 mobs and stop and loot. |
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November 24, 2008, 04:26 PM
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Re: Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
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With that in mind, I've been replacing Curse of Agony with SL, leaving me room to kite them with Exhaustion or slow their casting with Curse of Tongues. |
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November 24, 2008, 04:36 PM
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Elbuats 80 Orc Warlock Gurubashi US PvP Guild: Adams Road Gang Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
I love Siphon Life! If you have it talented, there is no reason not to have it ticking away. I generally fight just one thing at a time (which, I know, makes me weird) but there no downtime ever, which is good. I'm kinda weird in that I use Curse of Elements though in my grinding (I have it talented up, as well). So, my sequence becomes Haunt -> CoE (which hits before the Haunt does) -> Corruption -> Siphon Life -> maaaaybe UA if the thing has mad health -> Life Tap -> Drain Life and cast Shadow Bolts when Nightfall procs. Every fight ends with full health and mana, esp if you switch to talented Drain Soul at the end, restoring what little mana you still need to be back to 100%. I find that Curse of Elements is more helpful in this situation because it makes my Corr, SL, and Drain Life hit REALLY HARD! Like, easily 1200 Corr ticks, 500 SL ticks, and 550 Drain Life ticks. When compared to puny little 200 ticks from my Curse of Agony (which never ever gets ramped up enough to be worth it on regular PvE world mobs), CoE is the way to go in my opinion! 
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November 24, 2008, 05:17 PM
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Xavron 80 Gnome Warlock Moon Guard US RP PvE Guild: Veritas Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
If you toss Curse of Agony, toss it early in the boss fights... but yes, it's probably the last spell that I consider refreshing (and I may choose to use CoE or CoW instead). Siphon Life is definitely a bit under appreciated at the moment. If Haunt would refresh SL, I would be in affliction heaven. (I use Corruption/SL/Haunt when grinding mobs, sometimes I add UA, and I only cast bolts when they're insta-cast.) |
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December 02, 2008, 10:16 AM
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Daenex 80 Blood Elf Warlock Nagrand Oceania PvE Guild: Endless Fury Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
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If neither of the above are true for your make up, you'd use CoR unless you have another Warlock in the group, in which case either/or can do CoR/CoD/Curse of Agony. It's astounding how many Warlocks do not realise the benefit from CoR to melee DPS, especially in a raid make-up... If you get to do Curse of Agony, you always pop that on first due to the length of time it takes to come in to full effect. Remember, unlike other DoT's, Curse of Agony tickets every TWO seconds, not three. And you don't use it on trash...you're better of using your GCD for a Shadow Bolt. As far as grinding goes, unless your gear is not quite there yet, SL/Curse of Agony/Corruption pumps out enough damage to kill most mobs. Since Fel Armor replenishes health and you have SL on top of that, these two together negates damage done to you, allowing you to just TAB-dot/dot/dot, next target, repeat x15, loot corpses, profit, move on to next area. Last edited by Daenex; December 02, 2008 at 10:21 AM.. |
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December 02, 2008, 12:16 PM
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Aily 80 Human Warlock Doomhammer US PvE Guild: Arisen Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Siphon Life vs. Curse of Agony
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I see the point in that on leveling mobs, you can be more efficient putting on only what dots you need and Curse of Agony is horrible for trash mobs. |
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December 02, 2008, 12:33 PM
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Vitriola 80 Human Warlock gorgonash US PvP Guild: Knights of Avalon Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30 |
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