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Old January 14, 2009, 05:26 PM   #11 (permalink)

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70 Undead Warlock
Smolderthorn US PvP
Guild: Writhen
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Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Mana Consumption Issues

for trash? Curse of Agony Multiple mobs and RoF.
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Old January 14, 2009, 05:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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80 Human Warlock
Tanaris US PvE
Guild: Samsara
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Mana Consumption Issues

I'm in the group of LT no matter what to Full if i get a heal great if not well then eventualy my Fel Armor will get it eventualy its not like we are taking much of any damage in Heroics and LIke someone posted earlier theres a ton of raid healing in 25mans atm since my Guild is Shammy Healer Heavy.
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Old January 14, 2009, 06:11 PM   #13 (permalink)

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Uldum US PvE
Guild: Skeleton Crew
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Re: Mana Consumption Issues

I am running roughly the same spec as you. Lifetap and get new healers if they don't refresh you. Like someone else mentioned, Fel Armor is has amazing regeneration properties.

In 25 man content I rarely have to lifetap more than 2-3 times the whole fight and group heals keep me topped off.
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Old January 14, 2009, 06:13 PM   #14 (permalink)

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80 Blood Elf Warlock
Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Team Awesome
Talent Spec: 0/55/16
Re: Mana Consumption Issues

As Demo spec... I do Corr (for glyph proc) on all, cycling around - lets the tank build some aggro - then I do RoF, and if it's up I go all purple monkey on them, immo aura, and Hellfire. And trinket... don't forget to hit those regularly, macro them to make it easy.
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Old January 14, 2009, 10:36 PM   #15 (permalink)

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80 Blood Elf Warlock
mug'thol US PvP
Guild: Defiant
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Talent Spec: 53/0/18
Re: Mana Consumption Issues

@op: Well, I agree with most everyone I read here about using lifetap. Usually I drink, but healers tell me to tap anyhow or they just heal me which makes me stand up and tap because I'm full health.

What I noticed is that you said you have Glyph of Corruption; however, you didn't list shadowbolt in your rotation so I am wondering why you took that glyph? Get glyph of immolate. It's one of the best for anyspec actually I think it is the best for every spec based on what I read on EJ forums.
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Old January 15, 2009, 12:40 AM   #16 (permalink)

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just life tap efficiently... the only warlocks i hate to heal is the ones that wait till they are at near 0 or at 0 mana and then LT like 50 times to bring it back up to full... stupid and bound to get themself killed by freak AOE
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Old January 15, 2009, 03:06 AM   #17 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Ghostlands Euro PvE
Guild: Swedish Elites
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Talent Spec: 0/52/19
Re: Mana Consumption Issues

Hi!

I mostly don't bother with spell rotations in heroics any longer. If 2 or 3 trash I do Rain of fire, if more trashs I do Seed of corruption. That will bring them down fast enough and dps goes way up.

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Old January 15, 2009, 09:08 AM   #18 (permalink)

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80 Blood Elf Warlock
Echo Isles US RP Guild: Nightfall
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Talent Spec: 3/14/54
Re: Mana Consumption Issues

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@op: Well, I agree with most everyone I read here about using lifetap. Usually I drink, but healers tell me to tap anyhow or they just heal me which makes me stand up and tap because I'm full health.

What I noticed is that you said you have Glyph of Corruption; however, you didn't list shadowbolt in your rotation so I am wondering why you took that glyph? Get glyph of immolate. It's one of the best for anyspec actually I think it is the best for every spec based on what I read on EJ forums.
I use the glyph, and yes, I hit SB, but only when the glyph procs. Otherwise I don't bother. I have been switching up to see what works best, and was using the rotation, Cor -> Incinerate for awhile, which did work good for proc'ing MC and the occasion SB which usually shows up when evereything is dead.

Lately, I have been using Curse of Agony -> incinerate, and I have noticed that MC doesn't proc as much. Trying to understand why. I would think it would, but not 100% sure.

I also tried simply Immolate -> Incinerate. Seem to still get better DPS out of Cor -> Incinerate when MC procs alot.

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just life tap efficiently... the only warlocks i hate to heal is the ones that wait till they are at near 0 or at 0 mana and then LT like 50 times to bring it back up to full... stupid and bound to get themself killed by freak AOE
On the Life Tap issue, I usually tap once I am at 75% mana, but during some of the boss fights with adds...etc... and using RoF mana goes REALLY quick. and a single Tap isn't usually enough to bring me up. SoC has a huge mana cost as well.

I noticed alot of the healers now have either such high mana regen, rediculous amounts of mana, or their spell mana costs are so low, that they usually don't stop to replenish until 7-8 trash pulls are down. And the tanks (DK's and Warriors mainly) seem to go non-stop. I sit to eat between pulls and they are already pulling the next group. Because of this, I end of Tappin like mad to keep mana up and draining the crap out of my life, popin health pots and sometimes mana pots to keep going. Thank god im alchemy, shame I am not a potions master though.
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Old January 15, 2009, 09:35 AM   #19 (permalink)

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50 to 75% is fine... when you're mindlessly spamming SoC or some AOE instead of SoC SoC tap SoC or w/e your mana pool can support then that's just annoying and stupid

every class now has a decent fast heal spell and hot ( altho pally one is actually talented ). if you lifetap efficiently i can spend at max 3seconds to top you off ( HOT or fast cast healing spell ) before i go back to the tank or another person. if you tap when you're at 0 i have to spend 5 to 10 seconds casting big heals on you all while praying no AOE will one shot you should the tank be up ahead pulling another trash mob.

if it's pre boss I don't really care... everybody drinks and eats anyway.

and yea in full healing gear that i use for 25s I have close to 900mp5 on my shammy ( OOC ) and 22 / 23K mana. i rarely drink between trash pull and only sometimes after the boss is killed.
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Old January 15, 2009, 11:01 AM   #20 (permalink)

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80 Blood Elf Warlock
Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Team Awesome
Talent Spec: 0/55/16
Re: Mana Consumption Issues

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What I noticed is that you said you have Glyph of Corruption; however, you didn't list shadowbolt in your rotation so I am wondering why you took that glyph? Get glyph of immolate. It's one of the best for anyspec actually I think it is the best for every spec based on what I read on EJ forums.
I have both actually! I'm running glyph of Immo, glyph of Corr, and glyph of Curse of Agony. I'd run glyph of Felguard but I have never seen it on the AH on my server.

Also I was speaking of my trash rotation... which isn't much of a rotation. Mostly it's throw instants early while moving around and giving the tank a few seconds to get aggro, then straight to Rain of Fire. On things that live longer it's different, I'll go Curse of Agony, Corr, Immo, SB until dot refresh or dead.. or under 25% I'll swap to soul siphon. If it is on a boss, I'll refresh my dots if it will live long enough, then siphon.
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