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Old April 14, 2009, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)

3.1 Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

To start, there IS NO TOP DPS SPEC. (currently)

The top performing specs, of which any of them are currently viable, are as follows: (note, 3/52/16 is a spec that should also be able to compete, however I do not have the info to add it just yet)


0/41/30
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...31050000000000
Pet: Felguard

Glyphs
-Incinerate
-Life tap (use immolate in the meantime)
-Felguard

Rotation
Immolate, Curse of Agony, Corruption, then Incinerate. You can add lifetap into your rotation as well if you have the glyph. Below 35%, you can use decimation, where you'll cast soul fire every time you land an Incinerate nuke.

2 notes about this spec. First, without 1:1 decimation weaving, the spec will lose roughly 150dps. And 1:1 decimation weaving can't be done with much consistency. The other thing, this spec is very pet dependent. And ulduar hates pets, so use this spec at your own comfort/risk.


0/40/31
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...31051000000000
Pet: Imp

Glyphs
-Immolate
-Life tap (use imp in the meantime)
-Conflag

Rotation
It's more of a priority with this spec than a rotation. Immolate, then conflag, then Curse of Agony, then corruption, then incinerate. Conflag every time the cooldown is up. It's possible you may want to use lifetap every 20 seconds, but that depends on gear.

*Decimation. You will NOT be able to realistically maintain a decimation 1:1 rotation in Ulduar with any amount of consistency. In general, you will do 2x Incinerate, followed by 1x Soul Fire. If you can get to max range and have enough haste, and have the time to pull off a 1:1 rotation, great. But again, more times than not this will not be possible to maintain.


53/1/17
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9767
Pet: Succubus

Glyphs
-Haunt
-Life tap
-Curse of Agony

Rotation
Open up with SB and haunt if precasting is possible. If not (or after sb/haunt), use corruption, then UA, then Curse of Agony. SB as filler, refreshing dots as needed. Refresh haunt as soon as the cooldown is up, but do not cancel a previous spell cast. Below 25%, drain soul replaces shadowbolt as filler. You can use lifetap in the rotation.

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Old April 14, 2009, 05:32 PM   #2 (permalink)

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80 Blood Elf Warlock
Deathwing US PvP
Guild: Addiction
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Talent Spec: 54/0/17
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

Add 0/41/30 please.
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Old April 14, 2009, 05:37 PM   #3 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
trollbane US PvE
Guild: The Forgotten
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 00/13/58
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

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Originally Posted by Fallenman View Post
To start, there IS NO TOP DPS SPEC. (currently)

All specs below use the imp, with exception of the succubus for affliction.
The top performing specs, of which any of them are currently viable, are as follows:


3/13/55
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9767

Glyphs
-Immolate
-Life tap (use imp in the meantime)
-Conflag

Rotation
COD, then Immolate, then conflag, followed by chaos bolt and 2x incinerate. Wash, rinse, repeat. You want to be casting conflag and CB on every cooldown, preferably timing your conflags so you cast it in the last 5 seconds (increased crit chance).


0/40/31
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...31051000000000

Glyphs
-Immolate
-Life tap (use imp in the meantime)
-Conflag

Rotation
It's more of a priority with this spec than a rotation. Immolate, then conflag, then Curse of Agony, then corruption, then incinerate. Conflag every time the cooldown is up. It's possible you may want to use lifetap every 20 seconds, but that depends on gear.

*Decimation. You will NOT be able to realistically maintain a decimation 1:1 rotation in Ulduar with any amount of consistency. In general, you will do 2x Incinerate, followed by 1x Soul Fire. If you can get to max range and have enough haste, and have the time to pull off a 1:1 rotation, great. But again, more times than not this will not be possible to maintain.


53/1/17
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9767

Glyphs
-Haunt
-Life tap
-Curse of Agony

Rotation
Open up with SB and haunt if precasting is possible. If not (or after sb/haunt), use corruption, then UA, then Curse of Agony. SB as filler, refreshing dots as needed. Refresh haunt as soon as the cooldown is up, but do not cancel a previous spell cast. Below 25%, drain soul replaces shadowbolt as filler.

*Do NOT add lifetap into the rotation for affliction.
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Old April 14, 2009, 05:57 PM   #4 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Bloodhoof US PvE
Talent Spec: 53/01/17
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

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53/1/17

Glyphs
-Haunt
-Life tap
-Curse of Agony

*Do NOT add lifetap into the rotation for affliction.
Question: why have the glyph of life tap?

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Old April 14, 2009, 05:59 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Add 0/41/30 please.
IMO, it's not worth it. To start, even with simcraft's numbers, it REQUIRES decimation 1:1 weaving to compete. Secondly, ulduar is so disgustingly pet unfriendly. Simcraft unfortunately doesn't show you that. But in ulduar there are a lot of times where your pet may die (even with fel synergy) and many times where you have to pull your pet off the boss (stopping the dps). Unfortunately this affects 41/30 builds the most, where as the other specs are nowhere NEAR as pet dependent.

So, some may disagree with me, but IMO 41/30 is no longer viable for those reasons.
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Question: why have the glyph of life tap?

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Because fights no longer last 2 minutes, so you will be using lifetap a lot more even though it's not in your rotation, and so it's still that much more dps.
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Old April 14, 2009, 05:59 PM   #6 (permalink)

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80 Orc Warlock
The Forgotten Coast US PvP
Guild: Lords of Destruction

Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

Just a couple quick questions, but if im hit capped where should I put the extra points in 3/13/55. Was thinking about picking up Soul leech? Also why the one point in nether protection? Doesnt seem like 10% proc on damage reduction is worth the point. Guess it has to go somewhere.

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Old April 14, 2009, 05:59 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Luxury
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Deathwing US PvP
Guild: Addiction
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 54/0/17
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

Nah, I agree. But you really should include it for people who like Deep Demonology. 0/40/31 hardly qualifies.
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Old April 14, 2009, 06:00 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Fizzik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Dunemaul US PvP
Guild: Ghosts of Damnation
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

Has anyone on the PTR noticed if any one particular spec is more or less useful for any one boss in Uludar? For now can't see any reason to have a double spec for my lock other than just curiosity.
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Old April 14, 2009, 06:11 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Cryptlord
80 Undead Warlock
Trollbane US PvE
Guild: TwentyNine
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 24/37/0
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

Fallen Got any Meta/Ruin builds? Been really looking forward to trying it out!
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Old April 14, 2009, 06:17 PM   #10 (permalink)

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!

@Fallenman

Don't forget there are also people who still raid Naxx, or maybe are only starting to raid. They also need a nice spec, and for them 41/30 might be just as good as 40/31, or even better (scaling in the other direction!), and those deep demonology builds will also work for them.

Put Ulduar in the title maybe, but as this stands right now, I find it slightly misleading.
Maybe the "preview..." thread with the impressive bar chart in the first post is even more misleading, since it suggests a difference between specs that might not be there...


lets just go and kill bosses, and see what happens
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