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To start, there IS NO TOP DPS SPEC. (currently) The top performing specs, of which any of them are currently viable, are as follows: (note, 3/52/16 is a spec that should also be able to compete, however I do not have the info to add it just yet) 0/41/30 http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...31050000000000 Pet: Felguard Glyphs -Incinerate -Life tap (use immolate in the meantime) -Felguard Rotation Immolate, Curse of Agony, Corruption, then Incinerate. You can add lifetap into your rotation as well if you have the glyph. Below 35%, you can use decimation, where you'll cast soul fire every time you land an Incinerate nuke. 2 notes about this spec. First, without 1:1 decimation weaving, the spec will lose roughly 150dps. And 1:1 decimation weaving can't be done with much consistency. The other thing, this spec is very pet dependent. And ulduar hates pets, so use this spec at your own comfort/risk. 0/40/31 http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...31051000000000 Pet: Imp Glyphs -Immolate -Life tap (use imp in the meantime) -Conflag Rotation It's more of a priority with this spec than a rotation. Immolate, then conflag, then Curse of Agony, then corruption, then incinerate. Conflag every time the cooldown is up. It's possible you may want to use lifetap every 20 seconds, but that depends on gear. *Decimation. You will NOT be able to realistically maintain a decimation 1:1 rotation in Ulduar with any amount of consistency. In general, you will do 2x Incinerate, followed by 1x Soul Fire. If you can get to max range and have enough haste, and have the time to pull off a 1:1 rotation, great. But again, more times than not this will not be possible to maintain. 53/1/17 http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9767 Pet: Succubus Glyphs -Haunt -Life tap -Curse of Agony Rotation Open up with SB and haunt if precasting is possible. If not (or after sb/haunt), use corruption, then UA, then Curse of Agony. SB as filler, refreshing dots as needed. Refresh haunt as soon as the cooldown is up, but do not cancel a previous spell cast. Below 25%, drain soul replaces shadowbolt as filler. You can use lifetap in the rotation. Last edited by Fallenman; April 17, 2009 at 01:24 PM.. |
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Luxury 80 Blood Elf Warlock Deathwing US PvP Guild: Addiction Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 54/0/17 |
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
Add 0/41/30 please.
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sighmoon 80 Human Warlock trollbane US PvE Guild: The Forgotten Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 00/13/58 |
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
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Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
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Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
IMO, it's not worth it. To start, even with simcraft's numbers, it REQUIRES decimation 1:1 weaving to compete. Secondly, ulduar is so disgustingly pet unfriendly. Simcraft unfortunately doesn't show you that. But in ulduar there are a lot of times where your pet may die (even with fel synergy) and many times where you have to pull your pet off the boss (stopping the dps). Unfortunately this affects 41/30 builds the most, where as the other specs are nowhere NEAR as pet dependent. So, some may disagree with me, but IMO 41/30 is no longer viable for those reasons. --- Information Added --- Because fights no longer last 2 minutes, so you will be using lifetap a lot more even though it's not in your rotation, and so it's still that much more dps. |
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Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
Just a couple quick questions, but if im hit capped where should I put the extra points in 3/13/55. Was thinking about picking up Soul leech? Also why the one point in nether protection? Doesnt seem like 10% proc on damage reduction is worth the point. Guess it has to go somewhere. Last edited by Cirys; April 14, 2009 at 06:01 PM.. |
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Luxury 80 Blood Elf Warlock Deathwing US PvP Guild: Addiction Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 54/0/17 |
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
Nah, I agree. But you really should include it for people who like Deep Demonology. 0/40/31 hardly qualifies.
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Fizzik 80 Blood Elf Warlock Dunemaul US PvP Guild: Ghosts of Damnation Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
Has anyone on the PTR noticed if any one particular spec is more or less useful for any one boss in Uludar? For now can't see any reason to have a double spec for my lock other than just curiosity. |
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Cryptlord 80 Undead Warlock Trollbane US PvE Guild: TwentyNine Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 24/37/0 |
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
Fallen Got any Meta/Ruin builds? Been really looking forward to trying it out!
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: Fallenman's 3.1 Quick Raid Spec Rundown!
@Fallenman Don't forget there are also people who still raid Naxx, or maybe are only starting to raid. They also need a nice spec, and for them 41/30 might be just as good as 40/31, or even better (scaling in the other direction!), and those deep demonology builds will also work for them. Put Ulduar in the title maybe, but as this stands right now, I find it slightly misleading. Maybe the "preview..." thread with the impressive bar chart in the first post is even more misleading, since it suggests a difference between specs that might not be there... lets just go and kill bosses, and see what happens |
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