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April 27, 2009, 06:46 AM
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3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
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What I have been reading is that the most common rotation is, since 3.1: Quote:
The problem I see with this rotation is that Sb>Haunt before the DoTs is wasting DPS, in my opinion. Cast time for Shadowbolt and Haunt combined is about 3.5 seconds (give or take a few tenth) during this time the instant DoTs could be ticking allready. The second problem I see is that Curse of Agony at the end of the rotation also seriously hampers DPS since Curse of Agony becomes more powerful the longer it ticks. Corruption and Unstable Affliction do not have that problem. So, summing up, I would do this: Quote:
Ok, this is my view.  I didn't do any fancy math on this, so it is up for discussion!  PS: OK, I forgot to mention Drain Soul, do it below 25% Boss-Health. Which DoTs should you keep up? I believe all including Haunt since Immolate is out of the game. Is that correct at all, keeping Haunt when draining Soul? Last edited by Akasha; April 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM.. Reason: Thread title edited to ensure it's not accidentally merged, and people realise it's not for getting help. |
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April 27, 2009, 06:59 AM
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re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
the whole reason for shadow bolt, haunt 1st is too apply shadow embrace on your target to get your dots ticking for high damage right off the bat. basically the damage ticks you say you missed are made up with the extra damage you do with 2x shadow embrace active from the very start. |
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April 27, 2009, 11:54 AM
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Xavron 80 Gnome Warlock Moon Guard US RP PvE Guild: Veritas Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
Plus Shadow Bolt has a chance to proc Improved Shadow Bolt (assuming that you spec'd into that as part of the normal 17-18 points in Destro for Affliction). Now, personally, if it's a "run into position" fight, then I open up with Curse of Agony and Corruption, then switch to SB->Haunt->UA. |
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April 27, 2009, 12:03 PM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
Rawor explained it correctly. If you stand close to the boss, could do the following: life tap - SB - Corruption -Haunt - other dots.... It is important that the haunt debuff is applied before the first corruption tick  You keep all dots during drain soul, and most important, keep haunt up! |
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April 27, 2009, 12:25 PM
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Vazhkatsi 70 Gnome Warlock Dalaran US PvE Guild: Phoenix Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40 |
re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
is there a lifetap timer or a mod for it? i use dotimer which i have grown used to, but its a bit complicated to display buff timers on. and i find my lifetap glyph is wearing off without me noticing, mainly because my main flaw in affliction is forgetting to lifetap frequently rather than when i'm at 10% mana. probably soon as i get the hang of it, my dps will go up again also, while SB/haunt first is for Maxdps, in a raid situation that isn't always possible. its better sometimes to cast your dots so that the tank can build more threat, and so a crit SB doesn't ruin your day. that or do what i've been doing sometimes, wait 5-10 seconds before beginning dps so that you don't catch up till later. managed to go until 50% on the second guy on iron council before shattering because i was at 125% of tank threat. Last edited by Vazhkatsi; April 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM.. |
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April 27, 2009, 12:35 PM
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re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
hmm. i use timerbuttons imo its easier to use then dotimer couse the dots are "locked" in the order you want them. Tho i cant remember that TB showed others dots before 3.1 but it does that now and its kinda annoying. And i usually try to lifetap before every other haunt, some times 2 haunts in a row. |
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April 27, 2009, 12:55 PM
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Aily 80 Human Warlock Doomhammer US PvE Guild: Arisen Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
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Doing SB->Haunt start will apply: 2x Shadow Embrace - Spell - World of Warcraft Shadow Mastery - Spell - World of Warcraft and of course Haunt - Spell - World of Warcraft +3% from glyph |
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April 28, 2009, 08:22 AM
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re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
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April 28, 2009, 08:39 AM
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Status: Darkbinder
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Aily 80 Human Warlock Doomhammer US PvE Guild: Arisen Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
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April 28, 2009, 09:19 AM
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Xavron 80 Gnome Warlock Moon Guard US RP PvE Guild: Veritas Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
re: 3.1 Affliction Rotation Discussion (Not a 'get help' thread)
Aggro in 3.1 does seem a *little* better for Warlocks. I no longer immediately pass our lesser geared tanks as soon as I sneeze. But on longer fights, I'll generally have Omen3 start screaming at me at about the 1 minute mark. (At which point, it's usually time for trash mobs to show up in Ulduar or Naxx, which means I can let my threat cool down on the main boss for 10 sec.) |
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