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Old May 20, 2009, 12:35 AM   #11 (permalink)

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Luxury
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Deathwing US PvP
Guild: Addiction
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Re: Scorch or Conflag

Pyro is still mage. -blinks-

Fixed your topic title.
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Old May 20, 2009, 01:08 AM   #12 (permalink)

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80 Blood Elf Warlock
Khaz'Goroth Oceania PvE
Guild: Conviction
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3.1 Re: Searing Pain or Conflag

The red ball is still available

On that note is this for pve or pvp?

Not that big on pvp myself but for pve SP isn't something you have in your rotation unless your wanting to create threat.

So if its a case of SP or Conflag then always conflag without even 2nd guessing it.

As for CD being in your rotation its part of being a caster, embrace it. There is a good reason why things are on CD's, thats cos their awsum.

For proper rotations and what not, do a quick search on the forums and you will be flooded with great info.

PS The post was good for a giggle
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Old May 20, 2009, 02:22 AM   #13 (permalink)

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85 Human Priest
Medivh US PvE
Guild: Storm
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Talent Tree: Affliction
Re: Searing Pain or Conflag

The only reason to EVER use SP in a PvE situation is when the healer has aggro--and even then it's situational. Other than that, always always always use whatever the theorycrafters say.

I'm not too familiar with Destro personally, but there are a lot of great posts around in the forum. I'd suggest lurking moar, and using the search button a bit.

FYI, if you could fill in your character specs and whatnot it'd be a lot easier to tailor information to you. For example, are you a level 40 or a level 80?
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Old May 20, 2009, 02:26 AM   #14 (permalink)

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90 Dwarf Warlock
Eonar Euro PvE
Guild: Colossus
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Talent Tree: Affliction
3.1 Re: Scorch or Conflag

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodag View Post
Eep! Gotmy toons crossed.

I meant Searing pain instead.


Can a mod fix the topic for me?
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Old May 20, 2009, 03:18 AM   #15 (permalink)

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The Maelstrom Euro PvP
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3.1 Re: Searing Pain or Conflag

I'm wondering if I should feed this troll?
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Old May 20, 2009, 03:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Eldre'Thalas US PvE
Guild: Fate
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Re: Searing Pain or Conflag

Searing Pain should never be in a PvE rotation unless it is a special encounter in which you are tanking.

Backdraft is good.

Conflag Glyph is good - it prevents your immolate from being consumed.

Use Conflag/CB every time their cooldown is up; waiting = lost DPS.
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Old May 20, 2009, 03:31 PM   #17 (permalink)

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Drathen
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Nordrassil US PvE
Guild: Brothers of Struggle
3.1 Re: Searing Pain or Conflag

Ignore the intolerant trolls, Hodag. They don't belong on this forum to begin with.

Searing Pain generates an enormous amount of threat with very little payoff and should be avoided for that reason in dungeons and the like. Conflagarate, on the other hand, gets very VERY sexy when teamed up with the backdraft talents and the Glyph of Conflagarate (which prevents it from consuming your Immolate). Other talents you'll want to grab to up the sexy-factor: Emberstorm and Fire & Brimstone.

Once you trade you Glyph of Searing Pain for the Conflag glyph and re-route those Imp. Searing Pain talents into backdraft, you can try a new rotation like Immolate - Conflag - Chaos Bolt - Incinerate and then fill with Incinerates until your Conflag and Chaos Bolt cooldowns are up and Immolate needs to be re-applied. On regular mobs, you won't often get past two Incinerates.

Side Note: Be careful not to overlap your Immolates, as that makes for a painful dps loss.
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Old May 20, 2009, 05:40 PM   #18 (permalink)

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Thanks so much Drathen! The only good reply I've had in this thread.

I will drop SP for Conflag/ then.
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Old May 20, 2009, 06:52 PM   #19 (permalink)

3.1 Re: Searing Pain or Conflag

Immolate>Conflag is a slight dps loss since there is a fraction of a second of dead time waiting for the immolate debuff to apply and the conflag ability to register.

CoE>Immolate>CB>Conflag>3x incinerate is slightly better. If not on CoE duty then immolate>CoD>conflag>CB>2x incinerate works well.

I believe in the priority system, disregarding curses, is breaks down as follows:
  1. Immolate
  2. Conflagrate
  3. Chaos bolt
  4. Incinerate
Basically always keep immolate up. If it's up always keep conflag on cooldown. If it's on cooldown get chaos bolt on cooldown. If it is as well feel free to incinerate. pretty simple rotation IMO and much better than the garbage destruction started out as in 3.0.
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Old May 20, 2009, 07:00 PM   #20 (permalink)

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70 Gnome Warlock
Dalaran US PvE
Guild: Phoenix
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3.1 Re: Searing Pain or Conflag

umm......stay far far far away from searing pain unless you're tanking. searing pain generates 4 times the threat of shadowbolt. (half the cast time and double threat/damage ratio.) so, just stay away from it. always
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