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June 29, 2009, 08:57 AM

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GuvnerTH

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Guvner
80 Human Warlock
Thunderhorn Euro PvE
Guild: Battlestar
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58

Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock)

I currently only have 1 point in Destructive Reach and I am experiencing threat capping problems on the more caster friendly fights in Ulduar (Iron Council springs to mind). Now I know the runes of power are not helping but last night we where unlucky and didn't get a rune dropping until Steelbreaker was nearly down. At that point I was pumping out about 6k and needed to shatter with about 35% left on his health. So, for me I think I will need to put a 2nd point in destructive reach and possibly take other measures. I see Vigilance as a pure luxury and the problem with that is there is normally some rogue who has burst up the aggro table a lot quicker than I have and therefore tends to recieve it first. I am also one of 3 locks in our regular raids (all destro) and look upon vigilance as a luxury I shouldn't expect. HoS however is something I will be discussing further with our pallies. I haven't "expected" it up until now but perhaps I should push for it. I am also assuming that reduced threat chants are still a bit meh? Whats everyone's opinion on those? Normally they have been considered a waste of time but my gear is coming close to BiS (hard mode gear excluded) and I am now wondering if the trade off is worth it to reduce the time it takes for me to threat cap.

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Originally Posted by lilsteele

@Nimitz

thank you for sharing your thoughts. There is however one thing I don't understand when I look at your spec. You say that threat is the main limit on your DPS, yet you don't take a second point in destructive reach. A second point there would allow you to do 5% more damage before hitting your tanks threat cap. Takeing the point out of Backlash e.g. costs you 1% crit, thats some 46 crit rating or less than 50 dps loss.
Just my thoughts. Of course it would hurt on those fights where there are no threat problems, but the loss is really small.

My thinking is the same here. Crit scales less well than SP and Haste so its an acceptable loss

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July 03, 2009, 10:31 AM

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Supernex

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Supernex
80 Gnome Warlock
Drak'thul US PvP
Guild: Epic Drops
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/20/51

Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock)

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Originally Posted by Sheeba

Just off the top of my head: you don't have conflagrate. I hit 11K crits with conflragrate.
Backdraft which opens up after conflagrate is 10% haste for 3 destruction spells.

You also have affliction glyphs instead of destruction glyphs.

i'd suggest just following the raid guide for destruction & only putting 3 points in affliction for suppression or no points & picking up some more hit for raid bosses.

Actually it's 30%, not 10%.

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July 04, 2009, 11:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
Rigo Character Info Rigo 70 Human Warlock Dragonblight EU Euro PvE Guild: Dragonsbane Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 5/10/46	Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock) Mimron - When he is in Aeriel Phase (3) Put Curse of Tongue up it works and a slows the speed he drops the bots and the damage spells on his dps abilities

July 06, 2009, 11:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
Fallenman	Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock) I have cleaned up a few posts. Please guys, remember that if you need help with gear, dps, specs, etc, to create your own thread in the Warlock Den Help Center. This is not the place to ask for that kind of assistance.

July 07, 2009, 10:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ohd Character Info Azcarim 80 Tauren Shaman Bladefist US PvE	Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock) I have a problem with my destro warlock's threat as well in most big fights. I find it is probably blizz's fault for only giving a 10 percent reduction, whereas classes like my ele shaman have a 30 percent reduction.
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July 07, 2009, 04:01 PM

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Blubber

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Blubber
80 Gnome Warlock
Khaz Modan US PvE
Guild: The Angrydome
Talent Spec: 03/13/55

Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock)

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Originally Posted by Ohd

I have a problem with my destro warlock's threat as well in most big fights. I find it is probably blizz's fault for only giving a 10 percent reduction, whereas classes like my ele shaman have a 30 percent reduction.

Speak with a palladin and have them give you hand of salvation at the start of the fight.... This will slow your threat down a bit at the outset...

Soulshatter when you have to, then get hand of salvation again (2 minute Cooldown) when its available...

July 08, 2009, 09:15 AM	#17 (permalink)
Valimir	Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock) Get Vigilance if you have a prot warrior. Learn to Soul Shatter at the best time. I like to give the tanks a 30k headstart then I go all out until I reach 120% threat - more on some bosses, like Ignis and Phase 1 of Mimi I can go to 125%. Don't be afraid of being at 100-110% threat for a long time, it makes the tank work a bit harder and as long as you have some range you won't pull aggro. I've even hit a double Incinerate and Conflag crit at 100% threat and not pulled aggro. Also make sure your rogues and hutners are keeing up MD and ToT. Screaming for Salv is the last resort for me. Don't get it at the start. Remember that Salv reduces your threat by 20% not by (x)TPS so it is more beneficial to ask for it later on. And Hodir is the only fight where threat is a real problem imo.

July 08, 2009, 11:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
anncoulter Character Info Anncoulter 80 Undead Warlock Rexxar US PvE Guild: Game Over Talent Spec: 0/13/58	Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock) If you have the Illustration of the Dragon Soul trinket, cast health funnel a couple times to proc it to the max right before you make the boss pull. Extra +200sp when you start. -AC

July 09, 2009, 03:38 AM

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efg

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Epicfailguy
80 Undead Warlock
Skywall US PvE
Guild: C H A O S
Talent Spec: 3/13/55

Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock)

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Originally Posted by lilsteele

Mimiron:

Don't life tap in P1-P3. Theres enough breaks between the phases. I also cast corruption in P2 if I have to run from the cannon... but thats not too important I guess ;)

Refresh your DoT's in P3 when the flying unit is grounded to get the 50% damage buff

I keep a rank 1 lifetap on my bars at all times, because any destro lock without the lifetap glyph is warlocking wrong. should always lifetap every 20 seconds, until 3.2 then every 40 seconds.

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July 09, 2009, 06:33 AM

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lilsteele

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

Re: Tips to Maximize DPS (Destruction Warlock)

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Originally Posted by efg

I keep a rank 1 lifetap on my bars at all times, because any destro lock without the lifetap glyph is warlocking wrong. should always lifetap every 20 seconds, until 3.2 then every 40 seconds.

Maybe read a bit before telling other people they are playing it wrong?

Think about that there are two destro builds, one of them that doesen't even use the LT glyph?

Do the math how much dps loss a global cooldown is compared to the spellpower gain from a LT glyph?

And please lets try to discuss this elsewhere... maybe we can take it to one of the 10 pages long threads that discuss this issue? Wait... why don't we read those first...

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