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July 15, 2009, 08:46 AM
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same raid massivly different personal dps
Hi guys, i have found myself pugging OS25 and VOA10 recently as well as guild run naxx. something i have noticed is my dps can change dramatically from one group to the next in the same raid. for instance VOA10, one run i barely made 2k dps the whole way through where another i averaged 2.6k and peaked at 4k on one of the trash mobs. self buffed on HC dummy i consistantly pull 2.2kdps over 2mins. i have also noticed that when questing i get instant cast incins a lot more regularly than i do in raids where it almost never happens? is this down to my various little bits procing (sundial, embroidery etc) or is it down the the make up of the group? the high dps run did have a boomin in it which i noticed increases my crit chance a lot does this make it more likely that my other stuff is more likely to proc too? if im right and it is down to what other classes are in the group what are a locks best raiding buddies? thanks, Ade |
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July 15, 2009, 09:05 AM
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Re: same raid massivly different personal dps
Instant procs of incinerate will be coming from Backlash. They trigger when you're being hit (physical only?) That's why you won't see them in raids, you're a clothie, being hit isn't what you're there for! Make-up in group makes a chunk of difference, check out the raid comp on MMO champion website: http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/ Was posted a while ago, but its always good knowing which role is/should be providing what buff. Hopefully not teaching you to suck eggs, but big players are:
In general, expect to see a drop in dps if you are in a plate/hunter/rogue heavy raid. They won't be providing as many caster friendly buffs. Check out Tragik's threads in "Raiding builds" with regards to a better buff break down. They're titled "knowing your buffs" - and really should be stickied. |
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July 15, 2009, 09:06 AM
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Ulkesch 80 Gnome Warlock Blackhand US PvE Guild: Comfortably Numb Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: same raid massivly different personal dps
You get buffs from other classes, certain classes really kick up your damage. A boomkin gives you 5% to crit with your spells, a rather large amount that can significantly increase dps. If you have an elemental shammie with you, his totems give you some NICE buffs, to the point I often beg spare enhancement shammies to pick up elemental as an offspec hehe. Those 2 are the biggies for me, though other classes provide decent buffs. |
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July 15, 2009, 09:12 AM
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Re: same raid massivly different personal dps
that explains it.. first group was melee heavy second group had a boomkin and a shaman there might have been a mage in there too.. i couldnt believe how low my dps was in the first group and how high it was in the second. thanks for the links guys will read up some more. love this game, theres so much to it! Up to last year i was one of the best RC helicopter guys in the UK thats childsplay compared to wow :-) Ade |
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July 15, 2009, 09:50 AM
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Pamba 70 Human Warlock Azjol Nerub Euro PvE Guild: Bind on Equip Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 1/13/57 |
Re: same raid massivly different personal dps
Don't forget unholy DK with Ebon Plage buff increasing magic damage taken from the Boss/mobb for 13%  .
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July 15, 2009, 10:04 AM
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Voidheart 70 Blood Elf Warlock Area 52 US PvE Guild: Envisa Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: same raid massivly different personal dps
Also, Don't worry about DPS on trash. Seriously. It's almost cliche at this point to say that, but it's simply true. The only DPS that can actually be measured in a significant way is on a boss battle that lasts 5 minutes. Procs, buffs, and the random number generator (RNG) can play far too much into determining whether a trash mob takes 2k or 6k dps. You simply need a larger sample set (longer fight) to return meaningful results. Last edited by Voidheart; July 15, 2009 at 10:06 AM.. |
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July 15, 2009, 10:59 AM
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Ominousicity 80 Orc Warlock Draenor US PvE Guild: Renewal Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 00/41/30 |
Re: same raid massivly different personal dps
Great reply horlicks
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July 15, 2009, 12:39 PM
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Re: same raid massivly different personal dps
You should also take into account the type of boss fights you are engaging in.. eg. Every time im in an Ulduar 25 guild run and we fight XT-002 I usually top the dps charts in my guild with around 5.2k dps but when we fight other bosses I only get around 3.9 - 4k dps.. I noticed that with XT i never move around, just cast from same spot whereas with other bosses I need to move around which effects my dps.. |
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