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September 11, 2009, 05:46 AM
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Warlocks and spirit
HIya all,, AS warlock i am focusse don spell power haste and crit while being hit capped. Looking at max dps.com for gear upgrades i always see gear with spirit on it being rated higher. Now i should know all this but i am not sure what excaclty do we benefit from with spirit and whats the tiping piont to take spirit over spell power why does this itemHood of Fiery Aftermath - Item - World of Warcraft ranked lower then Kel'Thuzad's Hood of Triumph - Item - World of Warcraft seeing they are both item level 245 have the same spl power same stam same intel same gem sockets same socket bonus at first glace i would have gone for the fiery aftermath because it gives +82 haste rating and +74 hit rating where the Kel'thuzad's hood of triumph gives +82 crit but +72 Spirit aswell so i am wondering why does spirit rate good for us warlocks and what does it do for us destro locks **confused** 
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September 11, 2009, 06:47 AM
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Re: Warlocks and spirit
fel armour takes some of your spirit as spell power also if you have the life tap glyph it does the same too. Ade |
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September 11, 2009, 06:50 AM
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Re: Warlocks and spirit
Fel Armor increases spell power by 150 plus additional spell power equal to 30% of your Spirit. |
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September 11, 2009, 07:29 AM
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Re: Warlocks and spirit
As deep destruction you gain 39% of your total spirit as sp. Therefore the tier 9 head is ranked higher. Assuming you're hitcapped the off-set head is very bad compared to it. The tier 9 head has exactly 28.86 spellpower more than the off-set head. This outweighs both the haste as the hit. Showing you that spellpower is still the most important stat for us. Calculation: 74 (spirit value)*0.39 (DA talent) |
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September 11, 2009, 11:16 AM
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Jaystone 80 Human Warlock Quel'dorei US PvE Guild: Sanctified Vengeance Talent Spec: 0/18/53 |
Re: Warlocks and spirit
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Please explain how and from what warlocks gain 39% of your total spirit as spellpower in deep destruction??? 
Demonology: Demonic Aegis - Rank 3 Increases the effectiveness of your Demon Armor and Fel Armor spells by 30%. Last edited by evilsrh; September 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM.. |
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September 11, 2009, 11:39 AM
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Froshaka 80 Blood Elf Warlock Alexstrasza US PvE Guild: Is A Living Legend Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Warlocks and spirit
Well, another aspect to this is how you set up loot rank to evaluate the items. if you set it to not look for items with +hit for example, then of course that piece is going to rank lower than the other. removing the +hit question from the equation, an extra 20 spellpower (from the spirit) may do more damage in a 5 minute fight than an extra 1.79% chance for a crit. (which is the only real difference between those two items. |
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September 11, 2009, 01:17 PM
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Cormanthor 80 Human Warlock Gnomeregan US PvE Guild: Knights who say Ni Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Various |
Re: Warlocks and spirit
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Of course this assumes the default build of 0/13/58 or 3/13/55
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Some days it just not worth chewing through the restraints Last edited by Cormanthor; September 11, 2009 at 01:21 PM.. Reason: added talent specs |
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September 11, 2009, 01:31 PM
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Dyson 80 Human Warlock Scilla US PvP Guild: Eden Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Warlocks and spirit
One other thing about spirit is that on the EJ simcraft, glyph of lifetap is used in both 3/13/55 and 0/13/58 specs due to the increased buff time of the glyph. So you can consider that another 20% spell power boost from spirit. Source: SimulationCraft for Warlocks - Elitist Jerks |
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September 11, 2009, 02:54 PM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: Warlocks and spirit
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and on top of that, spirit benefits from Blessing of Kings in a raid environment, so basically you get spellpower = spirit*1.1*(0.39+0.2)= 0.649*spirit assuming 100% glyph uptime and 3/3 demonic aegis ;) |
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