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September 12, 2009, 01:10 PM
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Edhrin 80 Human Warlock Elune Euro PvE Guild: No Deal Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
Ok so on many forums, we find general considerations about cycles, itemization and other stuff, which after one month of expansion become pretty obvious and well-known by anyone interested in his class. However there is a lot more to really good dps than just doing the right cycle - a lot of people are, and there still are 1 to 3k difference between them and the top 10 warlock dps. In my case the difference is probably about 1k5, and I am eager to reduce it as much as I can. I would ask you to post on this thread your unofficial tips for upping your dps, depending on the type of fights, the procs or the situation in which you dps. We can only benefit from hearing about each other's tests and experiences. For the tips I am aware of (two of which I have grabbed from Munky, thanks to him) :
I invite you to add more stuff you learned from experience or from conversation with other destrlocks, and help each other to gain some precious 200 dps 
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September 12, 2009, 01:34 PM
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Debuff 80 Orc Warlock Sargeras US PvP Guild: Fenrir Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
Here is a tip that some people will misunderstand. Read this carefully: -Don't move unless you have to. And when you do move, don't move further than you have to. Spend as much time dpsing as you feasibly can. This tip is assuming that you've already gained the instinct to move as soon as you hear the DBM alert or if you have risk of taking avoidable AOE damage. However, I know that I have a bad habit of moving too far. Instead of losing maybe one casted spell I might lose 2-3. These things add up over time. Obviously, you aren't supposed to ignore fight mechanics as those are always the most important. |
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September 12, 2009, 01:35 PM
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Jenerena 80 Blood Elf Warlock Executus Euro PvP Guild: Deliverance Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
It is a hell of alot to remember but good to get into the habit of doing. Recently i have started using Curse of Agony whenever the boss is below 40% health and only one CoD has been applied, since it took most of the bosses health to time down, therefore it is pointless after this time. I also only use Curse of Agony in heroics unless the boss fight is stretched out. I have also started using corruption in fights that involves alot of movement such as Mimiron. You have nothing to lose doing this. As for recasting immolate, i rarely coordinate my spells with talent procs since alot of the time what you need at that time is either on cooldown or you would cast it anyway, it is only immolate you should watch for but you need immolate to cast conflag, so essentially any spell you do during those procs is going to benefit you. BUT i would say don't recast CoD at that time unless you can time it to hit before the boss dies. Those are general comments about what you have said. Any more? Well to be honest the best advice i can give is to read boss tactics and work out how to maximise your dps for each individual fight. You can have all the gear in the world yet do rubbish because you spent most of the fight running away from something you don't need to run away from, or worse, die. Know the boos fight, research tips for that fight, using all the tools above. From experience i would also say don't life tap more than you need to. I have a habit doing this but i am gradually becoming more aware of it. Only life tap enough to keep the buff up if you have the glyph. Without soul leech this can be annoying on dragged out fights such as Patchwerk but on fights where you can move around it doesn't matter so much. If you still have your buff and you're out of mana, then yes, life tap. OR time it so that you have just enough mana to nuke before you move again. A little hard to judge sometimes but for example on Ignis i life tap when it's flame jets, and also if i am in the slag pot, once i get dropped i teleport to the rest of the group. I also teleport on Sartharion if i run to melee range because of a flame wall, once it has passed i teleport back to caster range. Another thing is if you are for example fighting trash or two mobs and get aggro on one, don't blow your soul shatter, just fight the other depending on if another tank has enough aggro, until it goes down a little. Aggro is another thing, you wait long enough before nuking and both your tank and dps will thank you. There's nothing worse than starting too early and having to stop half way having blown a soul shatter. I only ever use soul shatter below 40% boss health, so i know i won't waste it. There's nothing wrong being high on the threat meter if you know your soul shatter is there if needed. And last but not least, we all make mistakes. I sometimes use incinerate when my conflag is off cooldown for example, losing dps, it's not massive, but could have given me another hundred dps. A good player is one who can recognise their mistakes, improve where possible and accept that sometimes we will make mistakes. Might not be a direct dps boost but it certainly helps you improve it indirectly. There is alot more but i will let others input. |
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September 12, 2009, 02:51 PM
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Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
Master Miyagi says: fight with your mind, not your fingers.
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September 12, 2009, 04:28 PM
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MeatisMurder 80 Undead Warlock Karazhan Euro PvP Guild: Fase Three Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
This isn't really a tip but kindof a comment. I've always ignored the shadowbolt talent but recently thrugh the advice of a guildy respeced to include the 5points of sb debuff improvement by just moving around a few things, still 0/13/58. Iv added it to my rotation after first conflag and have noticed about 3-500dps improvment. I just keep the debuff up the same way as i do the immo or coe/cod
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September 12, 2009, 05:57 PM
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Pst 80 Human Warlock Antonidas US PvE |
Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
Latency is your enemy. If you live on the east coast of the US, play on a server on the east coast of the US. If you live on the west coast, play on a west coast server (don't trust the server's clock, actually look up where they are). If you're in the UK, play on a UK server. If you're in Asia, play on an Oceanic server. Sounds like common sense but makes a world of difference. Not sure where your server is? Theres 4 datacenters in the US (Boston, Dallas, Los Angeles, Seattle), here is a list of what datacenter services what realms: US realm list by datacenter - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft I've upped my dps significantly by moving my characters to a closer datacenter. |
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September 12, 2009, 07:25 PM
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Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
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September 13, 2009, 04:51 AM
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Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
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 .A tip for those of you playing with this kind of latency - cast an instant cast - either a curse or corruption between you immolate and conflag - or you will be waiting for 500ms for the server to recognise your immolate before it lets you cast your conflag Last edited by ward0112; September 13, 2009 at 05:23 AM.. |
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September 13, 2009, 05:15 AM
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Maurice 80 Gnome Warlock Burning Legion US PvP Guild: Infamous Mob Profile: Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
Immolate,LT,Conflage is a wonderful rotation with the LT glyph. Use rank 1 LT to up the buff before a fight or as part of the above rotation. Constant slight mana back, less strain on the heals, Spellpower boost always active. Moving fights does not me you need to stop dpsing. Remember Safety Dance? yeah destro can dps that entire time easily, side note... make sure your tank is keeping agro though or your face may hurt. Personally I found that my dps went up when I self hit capped, all too often the others applying buffs miss or forget and them i'm SOL. Use DoTimer or the like if you want, I honestly have started to learn where the immolate cast timer (blizzard's clock like function) needs to be when I refresh it to have minimum dt. Clipping isn't always bad, if the boss has an air phase or the like, feel free to refresh right before it starts. Running to things like "Rune of Power" increases damage done/dps more than what is lost on the run there. Thrown into the air on a boss fight? Use the teleport! |
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September 13, 2009, 03:16 PM
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Dyson 80 Human Warlock Scilla US PvP Guild: Eden Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: The unobvious tips that significantly upped your Destro dps
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You can see it in the # of incinerates generally. CB and Conflag are cooldown timed and so are usually pretty equal between 2-3 locks in the same raid. So you get more incinerates off, it's pure win. Note that haste can help with this some, but the differences I see between warlock DPS reports (or even looking at recount after a recent fight) is not made up by haste. It's made up by movement. I have also seen this turn a 2000 SP lock into the same DPS as a 2300 SP lock. Simply because the lesser geared lock is parsimonious in their movement. Move when you have to but only move just enough. |
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