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Old September 15, 2009, 01:53 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Sheamas
80 Gnome Warlock
Hellscream Euro PvE
Guild: Fallen Protectors

3.2 Need Guidance to Improve Damage Output

Would really appreciate some guidance on tweeking my lock.

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My guild currently only runs 10 man instances as we don’t have the numbers for 25 and I’m the only raiding lock in the guild. I rolled my lock way back only as a play thing to help me grind mats. My main char has always been a holy priest for over 4 years, and pre dual spec, grinding anything with a holy priest was a complete chore.

About 2 months ago, one of our locks left and as we had some good healers in the guild I was encouraged to get my lock into raid spec, which I’ve now done. I spent alot of time reading these forums for basic tips and advice and this has really helped me improve.

I do the standard rotation CoE/CoD (depending on RL request and raid composition) -> Immo -> CB -> Conflag -> Inc...Inc...Inc and Conflag again as soon as its off CD...Refresh Immo and go again.

My total damage done is sporadic, but I put alot of that down to having spent 4 years having to concentrate on healing frames, and not targeting adds (but its improving) when clearing trash. My DPS on static bosses is good. I did Naxx 10 on Sunday to help some guildies with alts and did over 5K on Grob (with shammy heroism).

However, I do notice that when I do VoA or OSS 25 in pugs, my damage gets owned by other locks, with probably same or worse gear than me. This tells me that i’ve probably missed something in my build or spec and would appreciate any comments or feedback to help me improve.

Thanking you in advance
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Old September 15, 2009, 02:04 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Evictoray
80 Undead Warlock
maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: Need Guidance to Improve Damage Output

It's not a complete deal breaker, but ditch the intellect, stam and spirit gems.

The stickies might help.
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Old September 16, 2009, 07:34 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Tithian
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Nagrand Euro PvE
Guild: Hex
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Need Guidance to Improve Damage Output

As a former healer you may be used to overemphasizing on crit. I notice that your haste is way too low, about 150 rating. For a deep destro build haste is so much more useful and will provide a huge dps boost. Strive to get at least 300-350 haste rating, the ideal being close to 400-500.

Also, sometimes it is simply better to ditch the socket boni and go for straight spellpower socketing. There is an updated 3.2 spreadsheet the can tell you how gemming affects your dps. Gemming for straight intellect or spirit is a big no in any case...

Other than that, you'll get better at it as you get used to the fights as a dps.

Have fun dpsing
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Old September 16, 2009, 08:55 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Squishthis
80 Gnome Warlock
Shadowmoon US PvP
Guild: Smokaz Lounge
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/13/55
Re: Need Guidance to Improve Damage Output

on that note whats a quick easy simple to use spreadsheet since i never used one cause i gemmed a few sockets for pure haste and sp and haste?
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Old September 16, 2009, 10:49 AM   #5 (permalink)

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sarol
80 Human Warlock
proudmoore Euro PvE
Guild: HW
Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: Need Guidance to Improve Damage Output

After a long time reading the den, finally my first post Hope the English is ok…

Don’t know if you did it intentionally, but with your current spec and gear you are self hit capped. What's the Hit cap Mr. Wolf?

Depending on the raid setup, you could take 3-4% hit off your gear improving your haste. With nearly 600 spirit, I would recommend using glyph of life tap instead of immolate and work LT it into your rotation.

Or, if you don’t want to use glyph of LT, leave your gear as it is and use the points from suppression, shadow fury and one from Destructive reach to spec into improved DS. You won’t need to LT in most of the fights then.

Although dps wise the first solution is preferable.

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Old September 18, 2009, 01:29 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Sheamas
80 Gnome Warlock
Hellscream Euro PvE
Guild: Fallen Protectors

Re: Need Guidance to Improve Damage Output

Thanks for the advice.

I've deliberately gone to hit cap as we rarely raid with a boomkin, and I've always been led to believe that being short on hit is a no no. I prefer to use my food to buff my primary stat (spell power).

I'll look at the haste and start mining for haste gear. When we did Ulduar last week I won a trinket that was haste based but then gave it to one of our Mages as it was a slight upgrade for him
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Old September 18, 2009, 01:52 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Dethkrik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Turalyon US PvE
Guild: War Machine

3.2 Re: Need Guidance to Improve Damage Output

Yeah, gems are pretty messed up, for raiding the only 2 things to worry about are Spellpower and unlocking the Meta socket. Socket bonuses of +7 Spellpower are worth looking into if you need to use 1 non-Red gem, but otherwise +23 Spellpower is your best bet. Other than that, work on getting the best enchants, replacing the PvP ring, and building up your haste. Just replacing the enchants and gems should boost your spellpower by a good bit.
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Old September 21, 2009, 06:41 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Kilmir
70 Gnome Warlock
Aszune Euro PvE
Guild: Been There Done That
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Need Guidance to Improve Damage Output

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Thanks for the advice.

I've deliberately gone to hit cap as we rarely raid with a boomkin, and I've always been led to believe that being short on hit is a no no. I prefer to use my food to buff my primary stat (spell power).

I'll look at the haste and start mining for haste gear. When we did Ulduar last week I won a trinket that was haste based but then gave it to one of our Mages as it was a slight upgrade for him
Do note that spriests also give the +3% hit, not just Boomkins. Not sure if you raid with one though.

And as others have said, you have a heavy focus on crit, but haste is more important. There are many raidbuffs that increase crit, not to mention your own Empowered Imp, but only very few that increase haste. Plus haste gives more effect per point then crit according to theorycrafting. ie. if you can get 45 haste or 50 crit, go for the haste.
I'd advice to stay away from haste-procs though. They have a tendency to mess up timing and a part of it often gets negated because the global cooldown gets in the way.
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