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October 07, 2009, 11:03 PM
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3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
I'm not sure if you've noticed but Conflagrate has been redesigned from... Conflagrate: Consumes an Immolate or Shadowflame effect on the enemy target to instantly deal damage equal to 12 sec of your Immolate or 8 sec of your Shadowflame. to... Conflagrate: Redesigned. This talent now consumes an Immolate or Shadowflame effect on the enemy target to instantly deal damage equal to 9 seconds of Immolate or 8 seconds of Shadowflame, and causes additional damage over 3 seconds equal to 3 seconds of Immolate or 2 seconds of Shadowflame. At first this may look about even but there is the fact is that those 3 seconds of Conflag dot can't crit. So thats 3 / 12 sec or 25% of Conflag that doesn't bennefit from your huge crit or Ruin. I did a comparison with a 55% crit (with talents is about what conflag's crit rating works out to be). .55: crit rating 2: crit damage 1: non crit damage .45: non crit percentage In 3.2... its .55*2 + 1*.45= 1.55 .75: percent of conflag that can crit .25: percent of conflag thats the dot now In 3.3... its .55*2*.75 + .25*.55 + 1*.45= 1.4125 1.4125 / 1.55 works out to about .91 so about a 10% nerf to conflag depending on your crit My question to you is how will this affect things and what do you think about it? Last edited by Tatlreach1; October 07, 2009 at 11:24 PM.. |
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October 07, 2009, 11:09 PM
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Belthezor 80 Blood Elf Warlock Draenor US PvE PvP Guild: BCBuds Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: 3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
This is obviously a way to stop the complaints about Destro in pvp. While most geared pvpers won't see this happen a lot of casual BGers or WGers will wear pve gear and basically die once conflag goes off. They complain a lot and this is the result. This is a nerf.. hopefully it won't hurt Raid specs too much. Its still in the ptr though so it may still change. |
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October 07, 2009, 11:12 PM
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Re: 3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
Nasty nerf. we already have problems surviving in pvp and stringing seduce with conflag is one way to burst down a target without dying yourself. If we lose that I honestly can't say I think destro has a bright future in arena...
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October 07, 2009, 11:58 PM
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Re: 3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
Warlocks and hunters are both alike. Blizz nurfs them and they keep finding ways around it.Its sad that they don't understand human nature. everyone rolls a pally or dk because they are so easy to play. they don't have to learn how to play their characters and when they run up against some one that does, they have their mommie's whine to Blizz and wal-la here comes the nurf. I've got an idea. have blizz start everyone at level 60 and that would level out the playing field.This way no one would have an idea on how to play their characters |
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October 08, 2009, 11:32 AM
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Re: 3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
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October 08, 2009, 01:58 PM
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Re: 3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
In PVE this is probably trivial because I'm thinking that the conflag dot is an Immolate tick every second for three seconds. In PVP, it depends on if the conflag DoT is dispellable. And even if it is, it will be far more healable than the current burst potential of destro. It could be a buff in disguise if immolate gets dispell protection or the ability for it's DoT to crit. If it got both and they just flat out nerfed conflag by 25% then that would be a buff for both PVP and PVE. 3K Immolate Tick > Conflag for 4-5K > Chaos Bolt for 8K. Roughly the same thing with the same amount of time casting. In any event, it's still not time to ditch your destruction PVP build. It's the second build of the PTR on a patch that won't be out until November or December. I expect more changes. |
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October 08, 2009, 03:20 PM
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Devoid 80 Gnome Warlock Antonidas US PvE Guild: No Drama Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: 3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
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Your interpretation is not how I read it. It says 3s of Conflag DoT damage = 3s of Immo damage. It can be fix where, if Conflagrate Crits the resulting DoT lasts for 6s instead of 3s. |
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October 08, 2009, 03:35 PM
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Re: 3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
I'm fairly certain that this will only hurt pvp and will not do anything pve at all... unless they are getting rid of the conflag glyph that is. It's still the same damage/conflag, just spread out a little more. Actually it might help pvp but adding an extra dot that might be dispelled instead of immolate? I really don't pvp at all so I don't know how this might work or if I'm just pulling things out of my hat. I figure now when someone tries to dispel the have a chance to take the conflag tick off instead of immolate's? |
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October 08, 2009, 03:38 PM
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Re: 3.3 PTR Conflag Nerf
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AKA: ew. |
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October 08, 2009, 04:08 PM
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