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October 15, 2009, 11:23 AM
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Re: Deep Demo now top spec in current PTR
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October 15, 2009, 01:07 PM
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Re: Deep Demo now top spec in current PTR
@ lilsteele - Cheers for the comments. Maybe I grumped, but point still stands. I don't think - fundamentally - you shouldn't compare boomkins and shadowpriests to warlocks. Warlocks are part of 4 pures who can do nothing else but cause damage. We have no "other option". People complain about hybrids, I don't mind - we've got a few very good cat druids and ret paladins knocking about. I'm more concerned about outgearing some of our hunters and them posting some quite frankly ugly numbers. I had a look at the link at lunchtime, but I can't imagine locks being as close as simulationcraft puts us. We are more fragile than mages, hunters & rogues to group buffs. It takes 2-3 rotations to get settled every mob, which is 30s ramp up normally (ok its not paladin level of ramp up but still). This is what is hurting us (and paladins & shadow priests & a few others) on real vs theory damage. We can't get back up to speed as quick as rogues/DKs/hunters/mages/warriors. Maybe we could have a cooldown to blow at the start that allows us to jump into our regular routine asap...I don't know. I guess I'll see what 3.3 brings - just a lil disheartened gnoam at the incoming nerfs & already so-so damage. @Tragik - the numbers fiz posted from EJ are a (EDIT: original numbers were high, couldn't see Fix's post) 200 dps nerf from simcraft which puts us 600 or so behind mages on current gear. Mage T9 4 piece along with the DK probably goes somewhere to explaining why they're so high, and maybe our T10 will help more. Last check simcraft hadn't updated for PTR. |
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October 15, 2009, 02:13 PM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: Deep Demo now top spec in current PTR
@Hort I agree with you, even for destro locks it takes a few rounds to ramp up our damage. This particularly hurts in ToC. We're a tank&spank class :/ |
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October 15, 2009, 02:15 PM
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Soiledpantys 80 Blood Elf Warlock Area 52 US PvE Guild: Superfriends Talent Spec: 3/14/54 |
Re: Deep Demo now top spec in current PTR
My understanding, at least according to EJ, is that affliction locks are at the top of the heap in the early PTR 55/0/16 with the new Glyph of Decay. Anyone have anymore info on this? |
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October 15, 2009, 03:07 PM
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Majestrix 80 Human Warlock Kargath US PvE Guild: Keepers of the Old Ways Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 1/55/15 |
Re: Deep Demo now top spec in current PTR
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So exactly how much DPS are we estimating the new glyph to be worth? And how does that compare to the current recommended glyph setup of FG/meta/LT (and yes I know some people prefer immo over meta)?
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October 15, 2009, 03:36 PM
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Re: Deep Demo now top spec in current PTR
I honestly have tried to calculate it (I even tried here) but since the glyph changes how quickly Corruption deals damage, but does not reduce its duration, then I would assume that you get another full tick in as Demo with a spellstone on. If the glyph reduces Corruption's overall up time, then the effect is even more pronounced with corruption effectively dealing damage once every 2 seconds at 700 haste on a Master Conjurer's tooltip. I don't have a value to say that the glyph is going to provide, but can only draw that it will be much more substantial than 6 more seconds (aka 2-3 more spells) in Meta form. |
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