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Old October 26, 2009, 04:06 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Maelfica
80 Human Warlock
Shadow Council US RP Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

I have just started running some 5 man heroics/25 man stuff and I have been working on my DPS, by reading here, upgrading gear and working on my rotation. Now after a few fights I was analyzing my damage meter. While I was consistently in the top 3-5 for overall damage. My DPS was embarrassingly low. Like 1k -1.5k. How can you be in the top tier for damage and suck so desperately for DPS? What am I missing?

Feel free to offer any advice for improving my DPS.

Here is my Wow heroes profile (only one I can get updated)
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I am working on gemming, I am cash shy so saving up for Chaotic Skyfire Meta and more 19 damage gems. Also working on Kirin Tor faction for head. I am confident I know how to gem and upgrade my gear, just need the time and money.

My rotation is Corruption/Curse of Agony (Or doom still confused how to pick)Immolate/LifeTap then Incinerate until I get decimation then I alternate with Soulfire. I think I may be a dot clipper, I have a meter to help me with that. That or I get wrapped up in watching for Decimation that I forget to reapply.

Am I just capped on DPS for what I have gear and spec wise and whats up with leading in damage but sucking in dps?
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Old October 26, 2009, 05:44 PM   #2 (permalink)

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shdwboxn
80 Undead Warlock
daggerspine US PvP
Guild: Skeletor
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

either youre far more active than everyone else, e.g. starting to cast 10 seconds before everyone else (which is unlikely)

or youre using an addon that isnt stopping combat correctly after the boss dies. try updating your recount or skada or whatever it is youre using and see if it changes.

also try to sneak a peek during combat to see if youre on par with the rest of the group.
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Old October 26, 2009, 06:13 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Evictoray
80 Undead Warlock
maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

Make sure you are merging damage with pet owner if using Recount.
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Old October 26, 2009, 06:42 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Maelfica
80 Human Warlock
Shadow Council US RP Profile: Blizzard Armory

Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

I am using recount...I will check both those suggestions. I am definitely not starting early so I know that's not it lol
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Old October 26, 2009, 06:42 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Hypertellion
80 Undead Warlock
Executus US PvP
Talent Spec: 51/0/20
3.2 Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

I use recount and run into the same problem. I find that my dps drops about 900-1200 after the fight is over. A lot of locks have a problem with this. Also, if you die, you're DPS will suffer more where as most peoples DPS would come to a quick stop, our damage keeps going, but looses filler. I've had many fights where I died, and was able to hold near the top with my Dot's still going, and my DPS drops about 2k ish.
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Old October 26, 2009, 08:26 PM   #6 (permalink)

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80 Gnome Warlock
Antonidas US PvE
Guild: No Drama
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

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How can you be in the top tier for damage and suck so desperately for DPS? What am I missing?
Maybe you were rollin with a bunch of mages? LOL, sorry, couldn't resist...
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Old October 26, 2009, 10:27 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Maelfica
80 Human Warlock
Shadow Council US RP Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

I was watching my dots run off the training dummy today and noticed my DPS falling fast. I know Dummies are not a great indicator, but after watching them mid fight, I feel better about my DPS.

Forgive me if this is the wrong place to as this. I have read many faqs but have not seen this one answered. I tried opening the real time graph in Recount to see what it tracked. Now on the top there was my DPS and it was what I have come to expect 1.7 k However the actual graph was clibming as high as 4k What is the graph tracking? Is it dps? Is that my real DPS? or is the number on top like some sort of average?

I have overthought this way too much.
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Old October 26, 2009, 11:07 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Emarisea
80 Gnome Warlock
Oceania PvE

Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

There has been quite a bit wirtten about this topic. If you look on page 4 of Spells, Talents, DPS discussion, there is a post by Elricc titled 'Damage Meter Confusion'. Take some time to read this thread especially the posts by Debuff and Elsia. It should answer your questions and make you feel better. I wish i could link all this, but dont know how.
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Old October 26, 2009, 11:13 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Maelfica
80 Human Warlock
Shadow Council US RP Profile: Blizzard Armory

Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

Thank you! So many threads lead to other threads and get confusing. Headed there now.

One more thing. Is it time to go 0/13/58?

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Old October 27, 2009, 01:10 AM   #10 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Nagrand Oceania PvE
Guild: The Silver Hand
Talent Spec: Destro
3.2 Re: Lead in Dmg but Low Dps?

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There has been quite a bit wirtten about this topic. If you look on page 4 of Spells, Talents, DPS discussion, there is a post by Elricc titled 'Damage Meter Confusion'. Take some time to read this thread especially the posts by Debuff and Elsia. It should answer your questions and make you feel better. I wish i could link all this, but dont know how.
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Here is the link:-
Damage Meter confusion

The funny (sad) thing is the 10 man guild I am now with I was number 4 on gearscore when I joined. Through bad rolls/gear for others dropping etc I am now number 9 in gearscore but still 1 on damage done (though it is getting more difficult)
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