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Old October 29, 2009, 01:41 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Vashnaak
80 Orc Warlock
coilfang US PvP
Guild: Militiae Templi
Talent Spec: 3/14/54
3.2 Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

Ok

Im a level 80 Destro Lock (horde) with 3pts in supression, and 3 pts in cataclysm.

Is my hit cap still 368? Or could i keep it a bit lower and get more SP or Haste?

Every forum threads i read say being hit capped is essential, but i got told different recently by another lock... im getting confused.

Thanks in advance

PS i read thread about hit cap, but it always says "with points in supression or cataclysm" thats why im wondering.

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Old October 29, 2009, 01:59 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Dethkrik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Turalyon US PvE
Guild: War Machine

Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

Cataclysm doesn't matter, it used to increase your Destro hit I believe while Suppression increased Affliction, but it is now just Suppression increases all hit by 3%. If you have Suppression, then yes, 368 (14%) is your goal. Being under the hit cap isn't 'horrible' but getting the extra hit to cap yourself is a bigger upgrade than spellpower, haste, or crit would be (Unless you are at say, 366, where you have 0.0?% chance to miss and any upgrade is going to put you way over the hit cap and thus waste a lot of extra hit). Hit is the best dps gain until you reach the cap at which point it becomes worthless.

In short, yes, get hit capped.
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Old October 29, 2009, 02:08 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Fizzik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Dunemaul US PvP
Guild: Ghosts of Damnation
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

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Every forum threads i read say being hit capped is essential, but i got told different recently by another lock... im getting confused.
Just because everyone believes something doesn't make it true, but in this case everyone is right. Hit is your #1 DPS increase stat till cap.
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Old October 29, 2009, 02:18 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Vashnaak
80 Orc Warlock
coilfang US PvP
Guild: Militiae Templi
Talent Spec: 3/14/54
Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

Thanks for answering guys

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Cataclysm doesn't matter, it used to increase your Destro hit I believe while Suppression increased Affliction, but it is now just Suppression increases all hit by 3%
Does that mean my 3pts in cataclysm is a waste, that i should respecc and put them elsewhere?

thanks again
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Old October 29, 2009, 02:26 PM   #5 (permalink)

3.2 Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

Last time I checkecd Cataclysm reduced mana cost of destro spell by 10% has nothing to do with hit.

Suppression effects ALL spells not just affliction ones. Regarding your hit rating basically tkae the 3% from Suppression and remove it from the % needed to be at cap. So 17% hit cap 3/3 suppression you need 14% hit from gear for example
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Old October 29, 2009, 02:34 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Televair
80 Human Warlock
Anvilmar US PvE
Guild: Dragonic Overlords
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

Vashnaak, it's not that the points in Cataclysm are a waste, it's just that they do not impact hit as they used to. When you look at the Hit Guide, just ignore the mention of Cataclysm in that regard. As mentioned in the previous posts, Suppression takes care of all of it. Cataclysm is still a nice talent for you to have as it reduces mana cost, and you need the points moving down the tree anyway. Good luck!
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Old October 29, 2009, 02:36 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Fizzik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Dunemaul US PvP
Guild: Ghosts of Damnation
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

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Does that mean my 3pts in cataclysm is a waste, that i should respecc and put them elsewhere?
Just because hit is no longer in Cataclysm doesn't make it useless. The mana efficiency helps you pew pew longer between life taps, therefore is a DPS increase. The typical Destro builds are : 0/13/58 and 3/13/55

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Old October 29, 2009, 02:36 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Seurot
80 Undead Warlock
Arthas US PvP
Guild: Remorseless
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/14/54
3.2 Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

If you raid with an spriest (misery provides 3% hit), then you are 3% over hit cap right now and dont need the 3pts in Suppression. If no spriest, then keep your spec, and you are hit capped.
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Old October 29, 2009, 02:41 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Vashnaak
80 Orc Warlock
coilfang US PvP
Guild: Militiae Templi
Talent Spec: 3/14/54
Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

thanks for clarifications.

good day
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Old October 29, 2009, 02:43 PM   #10 (permalink)

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

3.2 Re: Another Hit Rating question (sorry) :)

The problem with cataclysm is that our Hit cap guide still introduces it as skill that gives 3% hit. So people get confused.
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