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Old November 07, 2009, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Asvieiara
80 Undead Warlock
Quel'dorei US PvE
Guild: Closed Casket
Talent Spec: 21/50/0
3.2 Demo..Hit vs Crit the final word

I play a demo lock and have been my entire wow life..I am geared decently and raid weekly..my question is this, for demo raiding which is better Hit or Crit? I raid with destro and aff locks and while I do ok on the meters..locks with much less gear than me tend to out dps me on boss fights..I was hit capped at one point then started doin research on E.J. and read that Demo should spec crit...after the respec it didnt seem to affect my personal dps or raid dps any differently....whats the final word on Hit vs Crtit for Demo locks?
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Old November 07, 2009, 12:26 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Grim Batol Euro PvP
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Demo..Hit vs Crit the final word

Always stay hit capped, that's regardless of specc.
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Old November 07, 2009, 12:39 PM   #3 (permalink)

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maiev US PvP
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3.2 Re: Demo..Hit vs Crit the final word

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whats the final word on Hit vs Crtit for Demo locks?
Hit and crit are 2 completely different stats. All classes and all specs of each spec need to be hit capped to dps an end game boss.
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Old November 07, 2009, 02:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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80 Human Warlock
Scilla US PvP
Guild: Eden
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Demo..Hit vs Crit the final word

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I play a demo lock and have been my entire wow life..I am geared decently and raid weekly..my question is this, for demo raiding which is better Hit or Crit? I raid with destro and aff locks and while I do ok on the meters..locks with much less gear than me tend to out dps me on boss fights..I was hit capped at one point then started doin research on E.J. and read that Demo should spec crit...after the respec it didnt seem to affect my personal dps or raid dps any differently....whats the final word on Hit vs Crtit for Demo locks?
If you were to actually read any threads on here about demonology (just search for even 5 minutes here to read demo threads) you would see demo is a utility spec which sacrifices personal DPS. Of course you will do worse DPS generally than equally geared and possibly even somewhat lower geared locks

Also, I dont know what EJ thread you read, but the EJ thread on stat scaling still has hit > crit. This is true for all specs in PVE. There are scaling factors. Of course, at some point having 100 crit would be better than gaining 10 hit, but overall, 10 hit > 10 crit.

Just search for the simulation thread on the EJ forum for the actual scale factor(s). It's usually updated there more frequently than the PVE compendium
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Old November 07, 2009, 02:20 PM   #5 (permalink)

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70 Gnome Warlock
Proudmoore US PvE
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Demo..Hit vs Crit the final word

Hit is important to till capped. What does hit do? Hit allows you not to miss a target. What is the cap? Cap is 17% and there are several ways to get there. 3 points in suppression adds 3% a shadow priest buff or a boomkin's fairyfire buff on the boss will add 3%, a draenie in your group will add 1%.

At times you will find me as low as 10% and as high 14% to reach hit cap.


Crit is a good stat, but Haste is better and more efficient to gear for then crit. I recommend trying to get to 500 haste and around 25 crit as a destro lock.

Since I can not see your armory link it is hard for me to make any gear suggestion.

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Old November 07, 2009, 07:25 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Eschatos
80 Gnome Warlock
Emerald Dream Euro PvE
Guild: Seven Sins
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Talent Spec: 55/0/16
Re: Demo..Hit vs Crit the final word

as said above, make your head straight :O
you can mess with haste and crit, but not with hit. for anything to have value you need to be hit capped.

here's is the hit guide in the den

What's the Hit cap Mr. Wolf?
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