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December 14, 2009, 08:59 PM
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Trampstamp 80 Gnome Warlock Aman'thul Oceania PvE Guild: Shattered Sanity Profile: Blizzard Armory |
3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
3.3a released and something is horribly amiss Shadowbolt is refreshing corruption and now corruption ticks once before it's reapplied has had a substantial decrease in my dps as affliction. It seems to me that corruption isn;t getting enough time to tick and get afew tasty crits in before it's refreshed? Anyone else seeing this? Last edited by Trampstamp; December 14, 2009 at 09:06 PM.. |
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December 14, 2009, 09:31 PM
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Satalitetv 80 Blood Elf Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: Relic Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/15/54 |
Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
Man, people seem to panic over everything... we'll be fine. I don't think it'll be as big a difference as you think. If anything, it'll just make it so that the dot checks for your buffs more often, which will make it's damage actually last as long as your buffs do. It'll also I suck at explaining things, so if anyone else can understand what I mean and can explain better, please do. |
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December 14, 2009, 09:42 PM
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Zutto 80 Gnome Warlock Terrokar US PvE |
Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
You are got a point tramp. it can be very fusturating to see your curroption spell refreshing with out getting as many ticks off which defeats the glyphs purpose to be honest ( Quick decay glyph). there are many ideas that are out there besides having shadow bolt refresh curruption. I would have been in favor of having the orignal system in place. it seems like thaey could have fixed it easly by adding something like bool flag = true; int = curruptiontime_haste if ( some_amount_of_time _for_extra_ticks==true) { Add in the haste value and extra damage for set period of time flag = flase; } some type of loop to check to see if bool vaule is false or true (So infinety haste boost does not occure or put a time limit on it like give it a 20 sec time limit before it works again ect just a suggestion by the way I am not a programmer I am just a novice guy that is looking at the current fix with bewildered eyes Also I thought about quitting game a few weeks ago but I had hope with the new affliction buff and demo buff but in heroics i was only pulling 2.1k dps I switchted back to my nerfed destro spec and pulled out 4-5k dps. I only can assume that these builds both demo and afflic only work well in long raid boss fights. What i noticed was that I could barely get a tick off a dot as a afflic or a sb off demo before the mob was dead boss I was getting 5 ticks off my dot lol but the restult was my dps was below tanks which was pretty pathetic with my gear level and exp. |
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December 14, 2009, 09:51 PM
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Trampstamp 80 Gnome Warlock Aman'thul Oceania PvE Guild: Shattered Sanity Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
Perhaps horribly amiss was an overstatement. Seeing as they just buffed affliction and i was loving it i'm slightly alarmed that they have implemented this as the fix for corruption falling off before haunt could refresh, (at least i'm assuming thats what it is) because it feels like it has undone the good of the new gylph as Zutto pointed out. On the brightside i can see this being very handy for refreshing corruption when you have multiple targets on the go. Last edited by Trampstamp; December 14, 2009 at 09:57 PM.. |
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December 15, 2009, 12:17 AM
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Satalitetv 80 Blood Elf Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: Relic Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/15/54 |
Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
You are correct zutton, affliction won't really do that well in heroics. Even on bosses, they die so quick you don't get time to use the drain soul phase that much. Demo is a little better, specially since you can continue to use soul fire for a little longer after the target is dead, meaning if the other targets are hit fast enough, you can chain soul fire the entire trash pull after the first target. On raids, affliction still doesn't do that well on trash, though on AoE it's fine with SoC. Demo is pretty much on part with destro on the AoE trash, and will do pretty decent on the single target trash. On bosses both speccs are great unless the fight requires a lot of target switching, specially for affliction. I'm not sure what you mean by "nerfed" destro. The damage is just as good as before. The only thing that is currently reducing its damage is a bug where the Conflag dot consumes empowered imp proccs, which I don't believe is intended. Even then, the dps is pretty high up there since they buffed the imp to compensate for the slightly lower conflag. It is true that the burst went down a little for the same reason, though. You also make a good point about being able to refresh other targets now trampstamp. It's now easier to keep corruption on the add while still using haunt on the boss. |
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December 15, 2009, 12:27 AM
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Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here to be honest, regarding it only ticking before it resets? Is the tick timer reset too? As for destro, conflag got a nerf. It's a small one, but it's total damage is infact less due to the coefficient changes made by blizz in 3.3 |
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December 15, 2009, 01:03 AM
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Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
Tick Timer is not being reset. The duration of the spell is brought back up to the rough 10 second mark though. Basically this is just a way for it to get refreshed but the damage keeps on trickling in like it should. I'm not having any problems with reduced damage at all now. Plus this is a great way to keep corruption on the boss like tramp said. On Marrowgar when we have to move during bonestorm or having to move out of the way of the fire it helps to have that nightfalled SB to keep Corr on the target when I can't/don't have enough time to apply haunt. Personally I think this makes the spec a little easier to play. |
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December 15, 2009, 01:45 AM
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Trampstamp 80 Gnome Warlock Aman'thul Oceania PvE Guild: Shattered Sanity Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
Actually it doesn't seem to be that bad, now that i've had some time to test it out it's working quite well although i have found that seeing as SB is refreshing corruption it's better to not refresh haunt till I have to, this may differ for others depending on how much haste they have i suspect. |
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December 15, 2009, 05:11 AM
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Tustaveris 80 Gnome Warlock Terenas US PvE Guild: Offtime Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
the shadow bolt change seems lack luster. I found the hardest part of keeping corruption is up is during the drain soul 25% Execute range. And for max DPS you're basiclly hoping for a nightfall proc in between something falling off. I'm having no problems for the most part catching corruption when it was falling off before until I got to that point. A bit more focus is needed imo, trying to squeeze out a drain soul tick etc inbetween refreshing dots. Only thing we can hope for a nightfal proc, if our haunt is on cooldown at that point to make up the lost ground. |
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December 15, 2009, 06:23 AM
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Geomatician 80 Human Warlock Kilrogg Euro PvE Guild: Rebel Knights Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
Re: 3.3a Shadowbolt refreshing corruption not good
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Yes I mentioned this in an external website. Possibly bufing the chance to proc nightfall. However what I was hoping to see happen was UA being able to refresh corruption, but then other classes might QQ in pvp about it :( But definitely I see where you are coming from regards sub 25%. Just as well my main spec is demo :P |
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