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Old September 20, 2006, 05:07 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Zpider
57 Undead Warlock
Dalvengyr US PvP

Possible TBC affliction heavy build

So I've really enjoyed demonology up until now. That's not to say I'm dissatisfied with it currently, but there's just so many good choices now it's hard to pick. I figure to really experience any of the new trees I'm going to have to quit demonology cold turkey. Here's what I came up with. Any thoughts?

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...01000000000000

Edit: I'm thinking of this as a damage-centric PvP build mainly, hence no Malediction. I'm really kind of affliction ignorant though so any comments would be appreciated.
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Old September 20, 2006, 05:30 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Akrab
80 Undead Warlock
Sunstrider Euro PvP
Guild: Frenzy
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 54/17/0
Re: Possible TBC affliction heavy build

As an affliction specced warlock I strongly suggest some more demonology!

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

Above you'll see my talents for the Burning Crusade.

The reasons I suggest this build over yours are the following:

1. Affliction build doesn't allow you to use your succubus' seduce, meaning you'll be more vulnerable and may need to pop a sacrifice every now and then, with this build you can do this twice in battle with fel domination (0.5 sec cast). The whole idea behind winning with Affliction is to outlast your enemy, while your DoTs tear your enemy apart.

2. The improved drain soul talent hardly ever triggers, it only triggers if your enemy dies by the drain soul spell itself instead of your DoTs.

3. Grim reach, as weird as it may sound is VERY essencial, you need to oulast your enemy, the more range, the longer it takes for your enemy to get near.

4. The 5/5 improved shadowbolt only works for non-periodic damage, you are going for periodic damage with this build.

5. You drain a lot of health with this build, your drain life spell is mainly a survival spell. putting 3 points in Demonic Aegis increases the effect of your new Fel Armour by 30%, meaning your health gained through Siphon life/Drain life/Deathcoil increases by another 6% and you get +130 spell damage, which will also help with your 3/3 Empowered corruption spell and other DoTs.

6. Your imp is your mana battery. The imp has a constant "out of combat" tag while it is in phase shift, meaning: It will regenerate mana MUCH faster than any other pet you have and should at least get its improved bloodpact through talents because you'll obviously be using it a lot. Not to mention it'll boost your survivability.

7. Fel intellect, heck! It's your new source of mana!
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Old September 20, 2006, 06:12 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Zpider
57 Undead Warlock
Dalvengyr US PvP

Re: Possible TBC affliction heavy build

Demonic aegis sold me. It's going to be tough letting go of shadowburn though, it's essentially like nightfall except I don't have to wait for it to proc. I do have a couple of points though.

For one, I thought they were fixing the drain soul talent to activate just by the target's death. In the text it says "...if the target is killed by you while you drain its soul."

Secondly, yeah I agree about the imp. shadowbolt. Meant to put those in Cataclysm.

Finally, I know I won't be able to seduce once the dots go up, but I mostly use it to outlast berserker rage until I can get a fear in or for basic crowd control currently (not a big seduce nuker). The succubus would still be my prefered pet for affliction simply for her damage output and crowd control abilities.

Besides, I'm not entirely convinced about dark pact. It limits my pet options and imp. lifetap has always worked well for me. I imagine it would work even better with siphon life and drain life.

Here's what I'd probably do based on your suggestions if I decide to go affliction:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

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Old September 20, 2006, 06:26 PM   #4 (permalink)

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60 Undead Warlock
Kel'Thuzad US PvP

Re: Possible TBC affliction heavy build

I am sm/ruin currently for raiding

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...01000000000000

Thats what it looks like im going to be; I raid and pvp so I need bane, and I figure malediction can't hurt either. Also affliction is the best for leveling IMO, so lvls 61-70 wont be bad. I may have to go back to a heavy destuction build depending on how boss fights are in BC, but I don't really want to.
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Old September 20, 2006, 06:40 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Akrab
80 Undead Warlock
Sunstrider Euro PvP
Guild: Frenzy
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 54/17/0
Re: Possible TBC affliction heavy build

As a former SM/ruin, I also miss shadowburn very much...

About your berserker rage issue: The voidwalker sacrifice shield absorbs about 2500 points of damage (improved) and will probably absorb more in the Burning Crusade, these 2500 points are more than enough to outlast that berserker rage and in case it is not you can always throw a deathcoil.

You can use Dark Pact on your voidwalker too, of course. It doesn't need its mana in PvP... Not to mention we are getting dynamic dark pact in the burning crusade, over 700 mana drained fromy our pet per time.

Dark Pact also works great with the Gnomish Mind Control Cap, if you're an engineer you'll be able to drain your foe's mana before starting a fight!

I also still use the succubus a lot with this build, mainly to stop casters/healers, cast curse of tongues, seduce when the enemy is casting and Voilà! They can start all over again.
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Old September 20, 2006, 06:51 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Yanahdi
60 Gnome Warlock
Lothar US PvE
Guild: Ascend
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Re: Possible TBC affliction heavy build

DoTs are affected by the Imp. Shadowbolt debuff, they just dont consume any of the charges.

What it means by non-periodic effect is that the charges are only consumed by direct damage spells, DoTs do not fit under this category. Shadowbolt/Shadowburn will consume these charges. If you crit, and then DoT (or vice versa) your DoTs will gain the proper damage boost of the debuff without consuming charges.

Its a nifty trick while farming w/VW to use Corruption/Curse of Agony and spam rank 1 SB till it crits and you get the debuff.
I've also used it as a quick way to get maximum punch out of drain life as well.

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