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Old June 23, 2008, 04:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unomas
70 Human Warlock
Kilrogg Euro PvE
Guild: Tre Kronor
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 44/3/14
Raid Malediction utility spec looking for help

Character Name: Unomas
Armory Link:http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Unomas
Talent Build: 44/0/17

Quick Info
Health: 9990
Mana: 9160
+Damage: 1271
+Hit: 225
+Crit: 17.26%
+Haste 100


Items/Slots in need of immediate upgrade:

Cloak, neck (hopefully not with 2.4.3's proc rate), boots, chest (t6)

Upgrades you are currently working on:

looking to get T6 chest next. we also have access to the sunwell ring and gloves pattern

All about you:
im in a T6 Sunwell guild who is currently working on Brutallus. basically im our token Affilock for malecdiction and Shadow embrace. of course im also the imp bitch, and am in the tank group.

my gear is the lowest of the four locks who currently raid. i do find myself being left out of raids over the others as they have been in the guild longer. we raid 4 times a week and clear BT in 1 night.

what i am looking for is info on item upgrades, and any tweaks any utility affilock has found in T6 raids. my build is still UA, and im sure i will get more of a constant raid spot as of 2.4.3 (with CoE duty of course).

i am also looking for peoples experience of being this "utility" style of lock. how much DPS do we cap at? i am usually 8-10th on dps on bosses. this is a calling out of utility locks everywhere. do you have any advice?

my usual style is micromanaging my DoTs (for bosses), throwing out as many SB's (or dark pact/life tap) i can while my DoTs are ticking, and refreshing them just as they expire.

usual starting rotation is: CoS, UA, Corruption, SL, Immolate... and then it changes as they tick off at slightly different times, and i like to hit them as soon as they expire.

also in my bank i have Scryers bloodgem, Wub's Cursed Hexblade, Void star talismen.

another question i have is my build. i NEED to keep my utility build (malediction and shadow embrace), but are there ways to tweek a utility build to outpupt more dps?

*** Information added 175 Minutes and 36 Seconds later... ***

just realised i spelt Malediction wrong in the title, my bad *fixed*
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Old June 23, 2008, 04:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nereme
70 Human Warlock
Zenedar Euro PvP
Guild: Its On Like Donkey Kong
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 41/3/17
Re: Raid Malecdiction utility spec looking for help

build wise there is a sloution its the maldiction/ruin build. you go as far down as maldiction with 3/3 and 5/5 shadow embrace then the rest of the point go into destro to get ruin which give you bigger crits and you get the 5% extra crit chance. if you look at my talent in armoury cause i have the mal/ruin spec

I would chnage your wand and possibly get the new guardians neck either the crit or the haste one.

Trinket wise if you using an imp the voidstar is useless s your imp should always be phase shifted so no damage will be takn so get the trinket from illadan and the trinked from hroic MgT because it procs off DoTs it will proc every time it is cooled down.

Also your way over hit capped so try and relace your boots and ring as you can afford to replace the hit with more +damage. also dont be affraid to be just below hit capped as it isnt as important as affli to be fully hit capped.

Your DoT strategy is good tho if you go for the mal/ruin build you wont have UA which allows you to throw out a few more SB's and may help with better DoT management.

How much casting time on you SB has the haste you have decreased it by?
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Old June 23, 2008, 06:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Unomas
70 Human Warlock
Kilrogg Euro PvE
Guild: Tre Kronor
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 44/3/14
Re: Raid Malecdiction utility spec looking for help

2.35 Sbolts
1.41 UA/Immolate

my wand is temporary, just waiting on the sunwell haste one. theres nothing i can do about my overcapped hit just yet.

what dps do you put out in your utility spec?

EDIT: is it really worth dropping 3 points in Contagation for ruin? i know ruin = big crits but surely corruption is a big part of the affi side of things

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Old June 23, 2008, 06:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Theleb
70 Human Warlock
Shadowsong Euro PvE
Guild: Original
Talent Spec: 0/46/15
Re: Raid Malediction utility spec looking for help

Imps can pewpew on Brutallus - they don't get hit

Going for mal/ruin is a good idea. You have one less debuff slot taken up on the boss, your personal DPS output is higher, and you can still fulfill the Shadow Embrace/Malediction requirements from a Utility build.

I generally don't worry about taking imp. imp and work with something like :

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Old June 23, 2008, 06:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Nereme
70 Human Warlock
Zenedar Euro PvP
Guild: Its On Like Donkey Kong
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 41/3/17
Re: Raid Malediction utility spec looking for help

my output at the moment is about 2.4k normal SB in raids. and my DPS when i switched to this spec increased by about 200 even though i am techincaly undergeard for this spec as i dont have enough crit but you do.

i think that it is worth the 3 point drop in contagation. because you may loose the 3% extra damage but the extra crits with the ruin spec really do add up to this as with the full affli spec i was doing about 3k crits but now my crits average 4.6k with a new record of 13k.

and because you arn't destro you will still have your imp out and able to dark pact which does keep you going slightly better than the destro locks even with chain chugging mana pots
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Old June 23, 2008, 06:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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70 Undead Warlock
Spinebreaker Euro PvP
Guild: Kroneri
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 6/44/11
Re: Raid Malecdiction utility spec looking for help

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theres nothing i can do about my overcapped hit just yet.
LIES!

The Scale of the Sands 999/1000 Exalted

Get your MH rep ring + replace that badge loot +spell hit ring Or maybe you havn't killed Kael O.o

In which case find someone to craft you a Loop of Forged Power I presume your guild has a stack of Sunmotes in the guild bank, my old one did + we only killed the trash to Kalegos twice ^^
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Old June 23, 2008, 06:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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70 Human Warlock
Shadowsong Euro PvE
Guild: Original
Talent Spec: 0/46/15
Re: Raid Malediction utility spec looking for help

13k crit? On RoS was it?

The link there is to crank as much DPS out as possible - you can drop points and shuffle them around to fulfil other criteria of course - a couple of points in Imp. Imp if tank's are really having problems:

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Old June 23, 2008, 03:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Unomas
70 Human Warlock
Kilrogg Euro PvE
Guild: Tre Kronor
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 44/3/14
Re: Raid Malediction utility spec looking for help

thanks for the input, i respecced today, and it is an increase, whilst still holding utility.

had a wipe fest (a few new people in) on archi tonight, so no Tempest, alas! but nevermind
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Old June 23, 2008, 11:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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70 Undead Warlock
KJ US PvP

Re: Raid Malediction utility spec looking for help

Biggest thing is drop some hit the hyjal ring is amazing and you really are past the point of needing the badge ring. Other then that remember with ruin if you are having threat problems you have 130% threat to work with on most bosses, and you can drop SL from your rotation if the threat is still an issue depending on the fight SBs will start to be more beneficial then SL if healing is not required.
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Old June 24, 2008, 09:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Unomas
70 Human Warlock
Kilrogg Euro PvE
Guild: Tre Kronor
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 44/3/14
Re: Raid Malediction utility spec looking for help

well, the new build works. my DPS wasnt that bad on Kalecgos and it buffed the locks nicely. was a good fight
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