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Old October 08, 2009, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Hoppy
80 Human Warlock
Ghostlands Euro PvE
Guild: T N T
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 please help a frustrated lock

Character Name: Hoppy
Armory Link: Link to your armory: The World of Warcraft Armory
Talent Build: 0/13/58

Quick Info
Health: 18122
Mana: 17650
+Damage: 1987
+Hit: 458
+Crit:26.18
Have you read the gearing guide? yes!

Items/Slots in need of immediate upgrade:
Trinket - Mark of the war prisoner needs replacing and possibly Sundial of the exalted, then my bracer's (bindings of the wicked) and cape (deathchill cloak)

Upgrades you are currently working on: currently have 46 emblems of triumph, and 50 conquest. unsure if I should spend the triumph badges on a new trinket (shard of the crystal heart (or as i am over hit capped atm talisman of resurgence) or save for a new head piece

All about you:
I am predominantly PvE with the odd dabble in pvp...as a guild we are as far as hodir in Uludar 10, we have also got as far as the horde bosses in 10 man ToC. I am a destro,lock who dies frequently due to over aggro! (i know dead locks don't dps) in TBH i was an aff lock, and to start with i hated it, but was persuaded to persist with it, then grew to love it..now in Wrath of the Lich King I am destro and love the big damage, but struggle with the aggro side of things. I used to put out pretty good dps, but recently have noticed that it can vary hugely from the very embarrassing right up to the very impressive (for me anyway!) ie 1400 in a 25 man up to just over 4k. i have recently upgraded a few items (which might not show up yet on armoury) but these days find myself on the lower end of the dps meters.

I have red the EJ thread and threads on here too..and I get confused by all the conflicting advice.

My current spell rotation is life tap (wiht glyph) immolate, incinerate, conflagrate, chaos bolt, then spam incinerate until conflagrate or chaos bolt isw off cd or i need to life tap or immolate again.

I am frustrated as I dont think I am doing as much dps as I should be and therefore letting the raid down...please help this frustrated lock
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Old October 08, 2009, 02:14 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Evictoray
80 Undead Warlock
maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: please help a frustrated lock

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Originally Posted by longsoxs View Post
Have you read the gearing guide? yes!

My current spell rotation is life tap (wiht glyph) immolate, incinerate, conflagrate, chaos bolt, then spam incinerate until conflagrate or chaos bolt isw off cd or i need to life tap or immolate again.
You should read and understand the basics more thoroughly. Your rotation and gems are wrong. I could tell you to dump all those silly crit gems, but you won't do it until you understand why.
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Old October 08, 2009, 02:21 PM   #3 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Ghostlands Euro PvE
Guild: T N T
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: please help a frustrated lock

that's really helpful...thanks :/
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Old October 08, 2009, 02:30 PM   #4 (permalink)

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maiev US PvP
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Re: please help a frustrated lock

I could tell you what gems to use, but what about future gear? You really need to study stickies more so that you understand the basic mechanics.
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Old October 08, 2009, 02:33 PM   #5 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Ghostlands Euro PvE
Guild: T N T
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: please help a frustrated lock

i wasnt actually asking for what gems to use (having looked at your gear etc I see you favour SP over all else)

but simply telling me that I dont understand the basics is a great way of really kicking someone when they are struggling. I have read and tried to take in and understand as much as I can, I love playing a lock and I am asking for some help not to be made to feel like a complete fool!
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Old October 08, 2009, 02:45 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Re: please help a frustrated lock

Your not listening.
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Old October 08, 2009, 02:48 PM   #7 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Ghostlands Euro PvE
Guild: T N T
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: please help a frustrated lock

I am listening....you are telling me I dont understand the basics.

beyond that you are actually saying anything that is helpful to me...the basics is a large topic...at least give me some pointers as to where i have misunderstood the basics!
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Old October 08, 2009, 02:52 PM   #8 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: please help a frustrated lock

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I am listening....you are telling me I dont understand the basics.
Exactly.

stat weights will vary, but never by much, your priority for gear, gems and chants should be ..........

Hit (only til capped)
Spell Power
Haste
Spirit
Crit
Int

so why gem crit?

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beyond that you are actually saying anything that is helpful to me...
Actually I am, but you're not willing to do the leg work.

Last edited by Evictoray; October 08, 2009 at 06:19 PM..
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Old October 08, 2009, 03:07 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Hoppy
80 Human Warlock
Ghostlands Euro PvE
Guild: T N T
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: please help a frustrated lock

I am willing to do the leg work...from what I have read it was my understanding that once you are hit capped that crit and haste have fairly equal rating (hence the silly crit gems) clearly I have understood that all wrong.

I will go back ad re-read!

thanks for your help
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Old October 08, 2009, 03:58 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Evictoray
80 Undead Warlock
maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: please help a frustrated lock

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Originally Posted by longsoxs View Post
I am willing to do the leg work...from what I have read it was my understanding that once you are hit capped that crit and haste have fairly equal rating (hence the silly crit gems) clearly I have understood that all wrong.
Even still, why would you gem either of those over Spell Power?

Once your hit capped, you'll only use 1 of 3 gems .....

Runed Cardinal Ruby - Item - World of Warcraft
Use this if socket bonus is anything other than Spell Power

Reckless Ametrine - Item - World of Warcraft
Purified Dreadstone - Item - World of Warcraft
Use these if the socket bonus is+7 Spell Power or greater. (I have actually come to believe that +5 Spell Power bonus is at least equal to if not better than straight Spell Power.)

Warlock_T8_00_13_58 Sta=0.00 Int=0.31 Spi=1.02 SP=1.59 Hit=3.57 Crit=0.82 Haste=1.10

Based on these stat weights, we can determine that ...........

Red = 37dps Runed Cardinal Ruby - Item - World of Warcraft
Purple = 29dps Purified Dreadstone - Item - World of Warcraft
Orange = 30dps Reckless Ametrine - Item - World of Warcraft
+5 bonus = 8dps
+7 bonus = 11dps
+9 bonus = 14dps

Since I've gone this far, lol, spell priorities ......


Immolate - Spell - World of Warcraft Keep this up as close to 100% of the time as possible without clipping the last tic of the current Immolate

Conflagrate - Spell - World of Warcraft Always keep this spell on CD

Chaos Bolt - Spell - World of Warcraft Always keep this spell on CD

Incinerate - Spell - World of Warcraft Spam as many of these as possble between DoTs and CD's.

Those are the basics. Your curse of choice will generally be Curse of Doom - Spell - World of Warcraft.

You can also ...
Life Tap - Spell - World of Warcraft
Curse of Doom - Spell - World of Warcraft
Corruption - Spell - World of Warcraft
Death Coil - Spell - World of Warcraft
while you are on the run since they are instants.

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