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Old August 24, 2008, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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70 Blood Elf Warlock
Kilrogg US PvE
Guild: Serenity

Help: Gruul afflic

First time poster here so I hope I did this right.

Websats: Wow Web Stats

My DPS is horrbile low, and I would like to know how to fix it. On HKM i was around 1200. I do not run a dot timer mod. Normally I am destro speced, but wanted a change. Destro spec I still run around te same amount of damage.

I accidently logged out in pvp gear so I hope this will be enough to show. I thought I could play well appreently I need some help lol.

Please any advice is welcome.

This is a link using IMBA showing the gear I was running in: http://be.imba.hu/?zone=US&realm=Kil...racter=Firefly

This is a link showing my spec: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-t...rogg&n=Firefly again logged out in my pvp gear, but the Imba link is accurate for gear.

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BTW You guys have an amazing site here!! I just found a how to maxamize Afflic dps thread, so I am going to give that a go first =D Is there a good way out of raid to test it?

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Old August 24, 2008, 12:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Drenden US PvE
Guild: Kitten Soup

Re: Help: Gruul afflic

To test your spell rotation go see Dr. Boom in Netherstorm. Stand over in the rocks where the bomblets can't get to you and fire away at him.
As for Gruul's; First question, were you in charge of the enslave on the wild fel hunter. If the answer is yes then cease to worry about DPS. Just like in Mag's where you will be responsible for the banish/fear of infernals you should not judge performance based strictly on DPS. If the raid is successful and no one dies (especially if no healers die) because you did your job then you're the lock to have around. Want to see lousy DPS, go tank Leo...but then dare anyone to say you weren't vital to the mission. Look at the big picture. Many guilds fail to get past Gruul's/Mag because of the focus on DPS and they forget the little jobs that have to be done and done well.
If you were there just for DPS...well, go see Dr. Boom.
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Old August 24, 2008, 01:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Kilrogg US PvE
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Re: Help: Gruul afflic

I was actually the only Lock on the HkM fight, and I ended up puting out around 1296 dps /second. Than came gruuls and I was below 900 =(
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Old August 25, 2008, 04:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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70 Human Warlock
Zenedar Euro PvP
Talent Spec: 6/44/11
Re: Help: Gruul afflic

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My DPS is horrbile low, and I would like to know how to fix it. On HKM i was around 1200. I do not run a dot timer mod. Normally I am destro speced, but wanted a change.
You just answered part of the question.

Dot timers are a MUST for EVERY lock. Regardless of what spec.

So you only press 1 button in destro?

What about when you need to banish a target? What about when you need to fear a target. What if you're using curse of tongues on a mob? etc etc. Dot timers are still very important.
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Old August 25, 2008, 05:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Help: Gruul afflic

Okay, you've gemmed for spell hit rating, and this is great. However you could also enchant your gloves for it. Whatever spec you run that's a little more DPS. Small niggle, but you've wasted points in supression, you have 14% hit, so only need 2%, anything above that is wasted, drop 4 points out of supression. Get grim reach and destructive reach too?

The pet controller on Maulgar always does great damage. You have a level 73 elite pet. Say no more.

Other than that, it's down to the timer. You had about 16% DoT downtime on UA and corruption.

To be honest though, generally, you should grab a little more hit, get crit (maybe half a percent) *without socketing for it* and then go back to destro if damage is all that matters (and you're not malediction or 5/5 shadow embrace). I'd reccomend replacing alar's crappy band with the nethergon band from the heroic badge vendors.

Oh and badge loot has better stats than T5, and the set bonus is pretty useless for non demo locks too.
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Old August 25, 2008, 07:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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undermine US PvE
Guild: Relentless
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Re: Help: Gruul afflic

900 DPS. welcome to an affliction build in t5 gear. in reality, you did more DPS than you should have, since you were casting CoD and not CoE. If you continue to use CoD rather than CoE, and pick up a timer as stated above you will probably hit 1k+ DPS. If you start using CoE* (you should do this. see below) and pick up a timer/work on your rotation, you will probably stay around the 800-900 range of DPS.

*Curse of Elements would have benefited your raid far more than CoD did on the fight you linked too. Roughly 1 million damage was done by the shadow priests, mage and yourself. You did 31k with 4 CoD. you would have added roughly 100k more damage with CoE to the raid. if you go with more of a utility spec and pick up malediction, you would add a total of 130,000 damage.
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Old August 25, 2008, 07:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Argent Dawn Euro RP Guild: Blackrock Diving School
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Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Help: Gruul afflic

Just some small things I noticed. You do not have grim reach and malediction, why? Imp Howl of Terror does pretty little for a raid build. Orb of the Souleater is much better then the Fetish for affliction. I'd get the spellhit enchant on gloves instead of the spelldamage so you get closer to the cap. There is also a spelldamage enchant on bracers that is way better then +4 stats one.
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Old August 25, 2008, 05:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Demon Soul US PvP
Guild: Paradigm
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Help: Gruul afflic

Remember also Affliction is not a DPS spec. Looking at DPS is not a good gauge of affliction. Look at the damage done. Considering you're still on top I would wager to bet you're doing fine.

Gruul's is an affliction locks paradise, because of shatter and silences your DoTs are ticking while other classes that are just doing direct damage are not.

Don't beat yourself up, be happy that you are actually competent enough to still be on top of the damage meters, where you should be even if your "DPS" is low. I know plenty of affy locks that don't have the intelligence to keep their dots up and it appears to me that you do.
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Old August 26, 2008, 01:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Stormrage Euro PvE
Guild: Elitism
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Talent Spec: 0/41/30
Re: Help: Gruul afflic

First of all, DPS itselves says absoluty NOTHING, DPS in wow is the Damage Per Second WHEN you cast per cast... and it says nothing about your total damage compaired to the timespan.

If you look at the total damage done and relate it to the timespan of the fight, your dps was even lower, it would be 840 ;)

As you look at Zaviton, his dps was higher then yours, but actually it's 735 instead of 942

Anyway if I look at your build, there is room for some improvements, reach is one major issue for you.
The be imba pages tells you problems you got gear wise.

when you hit is around 202, you choise for affiction will not improve your damage much, starting on destro specs might be a option to improve more
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